k98 sling original???

[SOLDAT1]

Hi
just got this K98 sling is it original i am not so sure !!

[rick1]

It looks like an original late war.

[MeinhardcFJR2]

Hello,

Have a look at this site, Reidar who owns the site is the Guru on K98 slings

http://www.bergflak.com/index.html

Regards,

Mark.

[SOLDAT1]

Hi Guys
Cannot see one like it on the site ?? Reidar would know for sure, that his WAF name.

Robert

[Bergflak]

Well, in this part of the woods I am "Bergflak" !

And, no! Your initial gut-feeling was correct. This one is a surplus sling made & used postwar by an unknown user, and then beefed up with a fake code/year.

Points of interest:

-Brass button on the keeper. Brass was discontinued due to raw material shortage in the German war-industry in 1937. Brass buttons was used by both Cz and Israel for their slings postwar!
- Markings are clearly fake. The letters and numbers are "handapplied" and does not line up properly. Never seen a "jsv" K98k sling either!
-Main buckle is a type never seen on WW2 slings. The disks at the end of the pins are "un-german".
-Leather appears way too "fat" in the texture.
-The stitches are all wrong

Pritty certain that this ain't what you want to add to your K98k!

[jotuntroll]

I agree with Bergflak.

The new tread and polish is also a clue.

Bergflak for sure knows much on WH equipment

[anmarlodz]

it is postwar sling. most probably austrian.

[floriskok]

100% postwar production

[SOLDAT1]

Hi
Thank you all, the Brass button on the keeper i did not like and as Bergflak said "Main buckle is a type never seen on WW2 slings. The disks at the end of the pins are "un-german". great site by the way

Robert

[Kelly w]

My question for Bergflak is. What do you think of the non oiled K98 slings that are true in everyway to a WW2 oil soaked one?

Thks
Kelly

[Bergflak]

If I understand your question correct.......

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
From experience, rifles found with the original sling attached normally has dry (non-oily) slings. Extended (postwar) use tends to leave the leather sling oily and dark. And even worse, collectors "preserving" dry original slings with mink oil etc lessens the value considerably.
In my eyes a "dry" sling with brown leather is the beauty, as it obviously is the closest to original condition that we get. But that is my 2 cents....
I have written a little about it on the second page of my sling-article.

And by the way!
Just published some new found info about the Karabinerriemen today! The article has a new beginning and I have added some interesting stuff about serrated pin-heads!

[Grubhy]

True. Pics from my old therad (http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=294770) shows bad sings of firction buckles:

Kopia maj 124.jpg

...and couple post-war Austrian slings which I used to own ( Stolla Wien) after grease removed.

pasy2.jpg

These are very close ot orginal, but perfect only for renactors

If I understand your question correct.......

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
From experience, rifles found with the original sling attached normally has dry (non-oily) slings. Extended (postwar) use tends to leave the leather sling oily and dark. And even worse, collectors "preserving" dry original slings with mink oil etc lessens the value considerably.
In my eyes a "dry" sling with brown leather is the beauty, as it obviously is the closest to original condition that we get. But that is my 2 cents....
I have written a little about it on the second page of my sling-article.

And by the way!
Just published some new found info about the Karabinerriemen today! The article has a new beginning and I have added some interesting stuff about serrated pin-heads!

[Kelly w]

If I understand your question correct.......

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
From experience, rifles found with the original sling attached normally has dry (non-oily) slings. Extended (postwar) use tends to leave the leather sling oily and dark. And even worse, collectors "preserving" dry original slings with mink oil etc lessens the value considerably.
In my eyes a "dry" sling with brown leather is the beauty, as it obviously is the closest to original condition that we get. But that is my 2 cents....
I have written a little about it on the second page of my sling-article.

And by the way!
Just published some new found info about the Karabinerriemen today! The article has a new beginning and I have added some interesting stuff about serrated pin-heads!

Wow, i thought it was the other way around. Oil soaked at the factory. I'll see if I can dig up some photos of the ones I had.

thks
Kelly

[rick1]

Hi
Thank you all, the Brass button on the keeper i did not like and as Bergflak said "Main buckle is a type never seen on WW2 slings. The disks at the end of the pins are "un-german". great site by the way

Robert

Actually pins look like the rivet look like the 1944 one on the far right.



I don't like the stamp though or the frosch on a late war being brass but it doesn't look brass to me but I am assuming it is by the posts from everyone.... but sling is late enough to not be as easily distinguished as early ones, which of course I'm better at discerning.

[anmarlodz]

Actually pins look like the rivet look like the 1944 one on the far right.



I don't like the stamp though or the frosch on a late war being brass but it doesn't look brass to me but I am assuming it is by the posts from everyone.... but sling is late enough to not be as easily distinguished as early ones, which of course I'm better at discerning.

to be honest - the last on the far right is POSTWAR - not wartime ! sorry.