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    #16
    So wow .... impressive picture, super quality, thank you very much for your help BlackWatch!

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        #18
        Has anyone seen other photographs of Allgemeine SS with this early field cap or only LAH as been published before?

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          #19
          Originally posted by BlackWatch1 View Post
          Has anyone seen other photographs of Allgemeine SS with this early field cap or only LAH as been published before?
          I have about a dozen on file from the net, and have seen them several times in publications. Still a rare photo though.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Tony & Kaiser View Post
            I have about a dozen on file from the net, and have seen them several times in publications. Still a rare photo though.
            You have photos of Allgemeine SS on file with this cap? Could you please share them here? Thank you

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              #21
              Very interesting photos....thanks for sharing them

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                #22
                Originally posted by Tony & Kaiser View Post
                I have about a dozen on file from the net, and have seen them several times in publications. Still a rare photo though.
                I doubt you have a dozen images showing Allgemeine SS wearing these caps. There are many LAH and many SS-VT images. Lets see what you got.

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                  #23
                  I find it interesting that all over the internet these caps are referred to as "Allgemeine" but there are no photos except this one showing Allgemeine wearing them and I only published this photo for the first time a few days ago. So why the "Allgemeine" connection? Is it published as such by the NSDAP somewhere? Thanks

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                    #24
                    Well, if this photo exists showing Allgemeine-SS wearing the krätchen there you have the proof that is was actually worn by (at least some) Allgemeine-SS units.

                    Maybe more pictures will appear in the future, maybe pictures was taken back in the days like this but they are for ever lost.

                    Again, if this unit decidd to wear the krätchen, why whould not other units have chosen the same?
                    Originally posted by BlackWatch1 View Post
                    I find it interesting that all over the internet these caps are referred to as "Allgemeine" but there are no photos except this one showing Allgemeine wearing them and I only published this photo for the first time a few days ago. So why the "Allgemeine" connection? Is it published as such by the NSDAP somewhere? Thanks

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Stangell View Post
                      Well, if this photo exists showing Allgemeine-SS wearing the krätchen there you have the proof that is was actually worn by (at least some) Allgemeine-SS units.

                      Maybe more pictures will appear in the future, maybe pictures was taken back in the days like this but they are for ever lost.

                      Again, if this unit decidd to wear the krätchen, why whould not other units have chosen the same?
                      Is there any text from the NSDAP describing these as "Allgemeine" field caps or was "Allgemeine" attached to these caps by historians/collectors after WW2 without proof? I know these were attributed to the LAH at sometime. Just wondering what the timeline was for information made for collectors and historians on these caps. Thanks
                      Last edited by BlackWatch1; 02-06-2018, 06:18 PM.

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                        #26
                        Many are also wearing the NSDAP Gau Baden Commemorative Badge!

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                          #27
                          I want to say thank you to everyone for their comments on this photograph. I find collecting images from the past very exciting because you never know what you will stumble on next

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                            #28
                            Wonderful early SS picture congrats.

                            Rene Chavez
                            www.foreignvolunteerlegion.com

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                              #29
                              Me personally, I have no idea but I suggest you (or someone that have it) look at Gary Wilkins Bible on the subject "The collectors guide to cloth Third Reich military headgear" ISBN 0-7643-1428-9 .

                              There might be more information there bout these Krätchen and who and when they were worn, both according to but also against regulations at the time.
                              Originally posted by BlackWatch1 View Post
                              Is there any text from the NSDAP describing these as "Allgemeine" field caps or was "Allgemeine" attached to these caps by historians/collectors after WW2 without proof? I know these were attributed to the LAH at sometime. Just wondering what the timeline was for information made for collectors and historians on these caps. Thanks

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                                #30
                                Another close-up for you guys

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