Great photo's Nick, would still be good to see a pic of the grey/white SS reversible trousers pocket flap if anybody has one to show
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Where is Nutmeg and 90th light when you need them...........................Comment
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here is the right typeOriginally posted by kammo man View Post
I didn't know it myself until this thread
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Yep that's the style, a much less pronounced scallop, as stated earlier, (compared with the SS parka jacket)
but it is still there, just shallower...(like this camo example) and obviously not a totally straight simple flap (army) as shown
in the first image, (from a warrelics thread), so in a style which is believed to be W-SS production.
Your pants don't have an RBNr and the size stamp in a different location?
(of course early Heer parka pants also lacked RBnr since that only started in 1943...)Last edited by NickG; 06-12-2016, 01:05 AM.Comment
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Busy looking for evidence that supports the theory of the pink smock existing pre 1945Originally posted by kammo man View Post
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Only the parkas have scalloped flaps. The trousers do not.
Your own photos bear this out no matter how much people try to turn the rumpled edges of the flaps into scallops. I made our pattern from the oak trousers pictured, but sold them last year. The flaps were very much straight. Go get any original oak/ blurred camo pants and press the flaps flat- the front edges are not curved.
There's no pronounced pattern difference between the Heer & SS trousers aside from the fabrics, (other than the funky "Kharkov" pants with the side buckles.)
Olpan's pants are "normal pattern" pants made from the same rayon fabric as the "Bunny parkas". There are no Heer parkas in that fieldgrey rayon, just SS ones with nicely scalloped flaps and arabic numeral size stamps in the neck.
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n160.
this thread is asking about grey - green pants Not cammo.
I am reposting your comments about me to the forum manager.
Good day.Last edited by Jeff V; 06-19-2016, 07:54 PM.Comment
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Well I see both styles worn by both branches.... See here...both ARMY! 1st image curved SS style...
I am confused!
but its clear on later (reversible camo) SS parkas set it was more often than not curbed-scalloped
on the tops and bottoms...but I guess both styles seen in either branch!Comment
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No RBNr numbers, but manufacturer Bulag and size 2 stamped on wind flap on white sideOriginally posted by NickG View PostComment
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Nick- the flaps are just wadded up. Same as the flaps on some of the camo pants posted. Olpan's trousers are the exact material used on Bunny Parkas. And Owen- it's OK, everybody has a bad day now and then. God save the Queen!Comment
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OK thanks. So the general consensus is the parka jacket pocket flaps can vary and the scalloped ones are probably SS made/used.Originally posted by n160 View Post
The parka pants on the other hand ALWAYS have straight flaps and are never really scalloped...just wadded up and appear different sometimes in period photos. Roger that!
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No Nick not at all
The SS grey green produced pants have scalloped pockets.
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Well you would assume the pants (on mouse gray reversible parka sets) were made the same way as the tops,Originally posted by kammo man View Post
(matching flaps) but even with the later camo versions its been proven not to be the case....
only the jackets have curved pocket flaps...Not the pants...
but honestly it gets a little murky whwn studying period photographic material...evenHeer showing "SS pattern" and vice-versa...
and often unclear wadded/compressed/wrinkled flaps...Interesting study though!Comment
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In my opinion, ONLY the SS issue camo and green parkas have scalloped pockets, NOT the SS issue camo and green pants. I to date have ONLY seen this barcoded printed material on SS issue items, and thus would believe the pants that started this thread are SS issue. Granted, I have not held thousands of unissued/issued army-SS-Luft winter pants in hand, but certainly enough and I have yet to run across an Army/Luft issued garment (even Jackets/Parkas) with this particular odd barcoded/striated fabric, I also have yet to encounter SS issued winter pants with scalloped pockets.
If someone has a true army issue winter parka or set of pants with this barcoded material, I would love to see them. I cannot see any camo advantage gained with this, unless it was saving ink, dont know when all is said and done.Comment
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Interesting thought Scott regarding the barcoding type material only being on SS clothing items, if so that would indicate that the pants In my first post would likely be SS, does any one have any pictures of Heer issued clothing in this pattern,I would still like to see a photo of the pair of winter pants with scalloped pockets if any one owns any examples, CheersOriginally posted by Scott A. Hess View PostComment
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