Winter Pants

[olpan]

Greetings,
I have seen SS Charkow parkas made from this green dyed cotton material, the same as on these winter pants pictured, would these trousers be considered SS issue ? Thanks for any opinions.....

[Graham G]

I believe those are, but I'm not certain. On a side note, the material isn't dyed (like any sane individual would do), but rather the grey is printed on, which gives it the "barcoding".

[olpan]

I believe those are, but I'm not certain. On a side note, the material isn't dyed (like any sane individual would do), but rather the grey is printed on, which gives it the "barcoding".

Thanks for your reply LSSAH1944, Interesting fact about the printed colour, I always wondered why the "barcoding" look was there.

[anmarlodz]

Greetings,
I have seen SS Charkow parkas made from this green dyed cotton material, the same as on these winter pants pictured, would these trousers be considered SS issue ? Thanks for any opinions.....

It depends what kind of parka you have ; if 1st or 2nd pattern than it wouldn't be a match IMO ( would be better to find early type winter, reversible pants - those fastened on sites ), but if 3rd pattern or army style parka than would be suitable.

[kammo man]

These are WH pants Not SS

[R.H.J]

Owen,

You are wrong this time

Regards,
Ron

[kammo man]

Ron
WH winter pants have straight pocket flaps
True SS winter pants always have scallop pocket flaps

SS winter over pants that match the fur lined SS winter parka are completely different cut and fabric 100%
So please tell me how I am wrong.

[Gran Sasso]

SS winter over pants that match the fur lined SS winter parka are completely different cut and fabric 100%

True - but this is the type that followed the pants you mention, and was followed by the camo ones.

[R.H.J]

True - but this is the type that followed the pants you mention, and was followed by the camo ones.

, 1942 model imho.

Regards,
Ron

[NickG]

Ron
WH winter pants have straight pocket flaps
True SS winter pants always have scallop pocket flaps

SS winter over pants that match the fur lined SS winter parka are completely different cut and fabric 100%
So please tell me how I am wrong.

I agree with Owen. These pockets flaps match up with the SS parka pocket flaps in shape. they're scalloped. Heer is straight, simpler! The shape and fabric print indicates SS.
But the pants are unrelated to the Kharkov parka pants, these are wendehoBen! (reversible!) and they will lack an RBNr too, another SS use indicator!!

[NickG]

HOWEVER...this straight versus scalloped pocket flap difference being an SS versus Heer issuance indicator does NOT always match up with the photographic record for some reason....

[kammo man]

If one is being geeky SS then scallop pockets flaps trump straight
Reality May of course be different

[NickG]

If one is being geeky SS then scallop pockets flaps trump straight
Reality May of course be different

Agreed!
Who knows where they drew their "winteranzug" supplies from? Corps level issued? controlled by Heer (Army supplies?)
Anyway this is the shape we like to see on field gray reversible SS style parkas! (standard also on SS camo pattern parkas)

[kammo man]

But SS made green-grey as well as Cammo

[NickG]

But SS made green-grey as well as Cammo

Yes of course early on mouse gray / field gray, later reversible SS camo patterns. Its really hard to tell if the flaps are curved or not...but certainly NOT always the case...