Winter Pants

[olpan]

It depends what kind of parka you have ; if 1st or 2nd pattern than it wouldn't be a match IMO ( would be better to find early type winter, reversible pants - those fastened on sites ), but if 3rd pattern or army style parka than would be suitable.

Hi Anmarlodz, Thanks for reply, I would be displaying it with an Oakleaf B parka, Cammo side showing on Parka and white side displayed on the trousers, these are a cheaper option than oakleaf trousers when available. And would like to have all SS items on the mannequin

[olpan]

Ron
WH winter pants have straight pocket flaps
True SS winter pants always have scallop pocket flaps

SS winter over pants that match the fur lined SS winter parka are completely different cut and fabric 100%
So please tell me how I am wrong.

Thanks Kammo man for reply,

[olpan]

Yes of course early on mouse gray / field gray, later reversible SS camo patterns. Its really hard to tell if the flaps are curved or not...but certainly NOT always the case...

Hi Nick thanks for your contribution and photos,
all ways informative.(other than the charkow pants you posted)
Is there any definitive way to decide if grey/green reversible trousers are SS rather than Heer, is there anything else to look for on top of lack of Rb number? as I have also seen Oakleaf cammo trousers with straight edge pockets ?

[olpan]

Has anybody got any pictures of the SS reversible grey/green winter trousers other than the type NickG posted ?

[R.H.J]

Owen/Nick,

Agree that the pockets from the Parka has to be scalloped, altough on the trousers straight imho.

Regards,
Ron

[clint-magnum]

perhaps this can help :

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...r+pants&page=2

[kammo man]

Owen/Nick,



Agree that the pockets from the Parka has to be scalloped, altough on the trousers straight imho.



Regards,

Ron

You are aware that there exists a scallop SS version of trouser ?

[NickG]

This is Scott A.Hess owned example, which was posted in another thread and borrowed for this study! A spectacular minty unissued SS version.
I would imagine the trousers would have matching scalloped pockets but the parka pants that started this thread with the straight flaps do match the material exactly
so maybe it does not apply to SS parka pants?
Do the pants that started this thread lack an RBNr? (SS indicator!)

[NickG]

SS camo oak pants...scallop less nuanced but clearly from narrow to wide to narrow again. Most likely the same with green variant!

Second image is Helmethunter camo collection also from another thread for this study! All with SS pockets! Compare!

I believe SS parka pants (green/white variant) will still show a very slight scallop, less nuanced than the jacket... but not straight like Heer.

[NickG]

This is my Heer Sumpftarn (water pattern/Marsh pattern) Parka set for comparison...All flaps straight as an arrow!
Same flaps design on jacket and pants...

[kammo man]

SS pants in the grey green cloth have scallop pocket flaps

[olpan]

SS camo oak pants...scallop less nuanced but clearly from narrow to wide to narrow again. Most likely the same with green variant!

Second image is Helmethunter camo collection also from another thread for this study! All with SS pockets! Compare!

I believe SS parka pants (green/white variant) will still show a very slight scallop, less nuanced than the jacket... but not straight like Heer.

Thanks for the comparisons Nick, I was thinking by scalloped pocket flaps it would look the same as the pocket flaps on the parka, obviously not, funnily enough I now own one of the oakleaf parkas you used as an example

[olpan]

SS pants in the grey green cloth have scallop pocket flaps

Thanks Kammo man, this is now what I will look for unless a reasonably priced pair of oakleaf trousers turn up

[NickG]

Some nice comparison images!
2 W- SS soldiers, one wearing an SS pattern fieldgray-white reversible parka, the other SS DOT Parka pants + a Heer water pattern parka!
The W-SS NCO is prepping explosive charges for bridge demolition (Narva front 1944)

[NickG]

Definitely an SS pattern parka based on the pocket flap shape! Definitely curved, not a straight pocket flap, Heer (army) style!
Unfortunately we can't see the parka pants pocket flaps but the shape will be much less pronounced compared with the pocket (but still narrower at the ends)