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    #16
    Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
    Last week I was very excited about a Hohenstaufen cuff title posted by Chris, colorodocowboy on the forum. I have a veteran brought back Hohenstaufen cuff title of the exact pattern. Many, on the forum, told him this was a fake. It is 100% original and is the hardest of all the three pattern Hohenstaufen cuff titles to find.

    Attached is an old thread about these:

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ufen+bob+hritz

    I had asked Chris to mail me the title so I could do a careful comparison and photograph the patterns together, finally having an excellent condition example.

    The variation is just a different model of Jacquard Automated Weaving Loom. The rayon cellulose thread is identical to the more commonly found Hohenstaufen cuff title. There is only a slight difference in the weave, but material is identical.

    I have included photos of the three patterns as well as a comparison to a uniform worn and removed direct vet brought example.

    Bob Hritz
    I must admit, that not only was it the whiteness and newness of the cuff band that I noticed….but in particular it was the unsewn ends that caused me to doubt that it was an original band. The band seemed to be correct…except for the unsewn ends.
    I am very familiar with the bands that are original and manufactured with unsewn ends and this band was not one that I was familiar with.

    It is a good thing that he didn't let it go at such a reasonable price as the listed grouping….so in a way it was a very good thing for it to be initially thought to be deemed as a repro.

    Bob, does the vet acquired band also appear to be one with unsewn ends?

    Vilja
    Last edited by Vilja; 05-27-2016, 02:29 PM. Reason: y

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      #17
      The rear top and bottom seam is also perfect right on Chris title. I am quite tired with many wrong calls for a material and good calls on post war material debates for pages.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Manalishi View Post
        if I saw the one at the bottom at a show, I'd pass. It looks like a Reddick repro.

        Chris
        The cross bar on the 'H' is too high for a Reddick fake.

        Ian

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          #19
          Originally posted by Vilja View Post
          I must admit, that not only was it the whiteness and newness of the cuff band that I noticed….but in particular it was the unsewn ends that caused me to doubt that it was an original band. The band seemed to be correct…except for the unsewn ends.
          I am very familiar with the bands that are original and manufactured with unsewn ends and this band was not one that I was familiar with.

          It is a good thing that he didn't let it go at such a reasonable price as the listed grouping….so in a way it was a very good thing for it to be initially thought to be deemed as a repro.

          Bob, does the vet acquired band also appear to be one with unsewn ends?

          Vilja
          My worn example is cut short so I cannot tell if there were ever sewn ends. The minty example has cut edges that appear to not be factory, so I think it was done by whoever brought it back.

          Chris will have it back in a few days.

          Bob Hritz
          In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

          Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Ian Hulley View Post
            The cross bar on the 'H' is too high for a Reddick fake.

            Ian
            Yeah...but his is only $15...

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              #21
              Thanks for showing Bob

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                #22
                Now, one question; Is the 9th SS- "Hohenstaufen" the only know cuff title that has this type of weave?

                Matt

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