Camo coming from Lorenzo - Helmet cover

[kammo man]

A faker makes simple mistakes like adding the black band.
The black HB weave fabric found on the Mint Lorenzo helmet cover makes no sense at all as its a company level repair only carried out on used and damaged covers that had the fronts ripped through combat usage.
This repair comes in many different fabrics but the use of modern binding gives it away clearly.But Fakers follow examples like the BE Jerome cover shown in the book looking to fool.
The sewing style clearly follows the other PVL cover shown above.
Its uncanny.

[17thairborne]

A faker makes simple mistakes like adding the black band.
The black HB weave fabric found on the Mint Lorenzo helmet cover makes no sense at all as its a company level repair only carried out on used and damaged covers that had the fronts ripped through combat usage.
This repair comes in many different fabrics but the use of modern binding gives it away clearly.But Fakers follow examples like the BE Jerome cover shown in the book looking to fool.
The sewing style clearly follows the other PVL cover shown above.
Its uncanny.

Yet another logical reason why I am even more suspect of the things.

[ironcross13]

Just so no one forgets.....
Here is a typical Lorenzo fake helmet cover.

I have handled a oakleaf B cover and Zelt..
the Zelt is much thicker and feels a different material..

are the fake covers made from cut up zelts or has someone found real camo cover material?

as if made from zelts should be easy to tell as its thicker.

[kammo man]

All this stuff is made from Zelt fabric which is incorrect for these items.

[Vancharger]

Have followed this thread from A to soon Z

At least, it isn't pink!

[Disco Partisan]

A faker makes simple mistakes like adding the black band.
The black HB weave fabric found on the Mint Lorenzo helmet cover makes no sense at all as its a company level repair only carried out on used and damaged covers that had the fronts ripped through combat usage.
This repair comes in many different fabrics but the use of modern binding gives it away clearly.But Fakers follow examples like the BE Jerome cover shown in the book looking to fool.
The sewing style clearly follows the other PVL cover shown above.
Its uncanny.

Beaver in his book "Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen-SS" said this strip is a "manufacturer's variation" shown in period pictures on the pages 122 and 126

On the page 119 Beaver said: "Material used in construction was the double-sided camouflage zeltabhn fabric"

[dave peifer]

All this stuff is made from Zelt fabric which is incorrect for these items.

in other words someone is cutting up good zelts to make fake covers?.....if so what a shame.............dave

[kammo man]

Dave,
Thats been going on for decades.

[dave peifer]

i always knew there were fake covers and hats floating around,but to ruin a good piece of ss camo.........pathetic

[Vancharger]

in other words someone is cutting up good zelts to make fake covers?.....if so what a shame.............dave

Several smocks, caps and helmet covers has been made after 45 with pre 45 cloth. A question of how much you can earn per sqaure foot for the fakers...

[Graham G]

i always knew there were fake covers and hats floating around,but to ruin a good piece of ss camo.........pathetic

Its been going on for, as kammo man said, quite literally decades- over half a century. Hardly much new. Additionally, many will use damages zelts, rather than new ones. But, when you think about it, zelts can be gotten for 1k (if damaged and a decent print). Make 2 or 3 covers, sell em as real, and it's pretty profitable for the faker- even if it is complete fraud.

[kammo man]

yet another logical reason why i am even more suspect of the things.

100%.

[ironcross13]

All this stuff is made from Zelt fabric which is incorrect for these items.

Yes Just wanted to make sure i was right..
Zelt is much thicker and different.. I am no expert though..

I do wonder if proper helmet cover material was ever found and made into covers.

[kammo man]

None that I have seen in 30 years.

[olpan]

in other words someone is cutting up good zelts to make fake covers?.....if so what a shame.............dave

Shocking Original items being destroyed to make fakes, eventually this will also push up the prices of SS zelts