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    #31
    WOW! That jewelry is absolutely breathtaking. I have always wanted to see a picture of a real Gahr made Thor's hammer pennant, but never have yet.

    Also, transvision, can you post your ring here as well? Would love to see it.

    Thanks!

    Chris

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      #32
      You are correct. It is a shame that the past actions by some individuals to manipulate the market for pure profit would hurt a highly desirable collectable. From the Frank ring controversy ,to self promotions to gain "expert" status is hopefully behind us. Ron


      Originally posted by SScollector View Post
      Thanks for the compliments, guys! It's a shame that people are crippling the interest in these great items. These rings are really about the neatest of all of the SS collectibles, IMO, especially with all of the story behind them. I just hope that other collectors will continue to research them and to learn how to be above all of the forgery and fraud out there because I still do not believe that there is a perfect fake anywhere.

      Chris
      Last edited by tanker; 07-06-2013, 02:47 PM.

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        #33
        Evil crawling out from its cave.
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          #34
          I have not heard of this Frank ring deal. Is there a link?

          Chris

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            #35
            Originally posted by DR DOLCH View Post
            Why can't old rings be faked as well as the newer ones?
            of course they could have-and were...but a TK ring with proof of being in a collection for ten years is not going to be one of the new super fakes.

            And if it has Boyles certificate and even Lumsden said it was good..
            along with evidence of owning it before the super fakes appeared ... well, I consider it more desirable as proven authentic . Without any worries it is a super fake with false wear to make it hard for experts to catch.
            But that is just me.

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              #36
              Originally posted by chen View Post
              Evil crawling out from its cave.
              Chen,

              Can you tell us more about your stunning piece?

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                #37
                Originally posted by SScollector View Post
                I have not heard of this Frank ring deal. Is there a link?

                Chris
                Chris I think this is the thread.

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...+ring+gottlieb

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                  #38
                  I went back through the Frank thread linked in the post above. It was interesting for me to see how little my opinions on this subject have changed over the last 4 years or so.

                  Like so many threads where controversy is involved, that one quickly started focusing on personalities, egos and name calling rather than a carefull and systematic look at the ring itself.

                  This Frank ring had several characteristics that raised questions. I can not say that the ring could not have been original, but I only had those photos to go by and for whatever reason the owner did not want to post more close ups for discussion and analysis.

                  A few of the things to consider on that ring were/are:

                  1. the obvious difference in the way that the leaves were shaped and even arranged in the area to the right side of the sigrune symbol on the back.

                  2. If you look carefully at the skull and bones you will see that there is an excessive distance or gap between each of the 4 bone ends and the skull sides and that it appears that the bones are intregal to the ring and the skull is applied as a seperate piece...rather than both the skull and bones being one piece and applied as one as would be the case on all orginals.

                  3. there are also differences in how the leaves are finished on each leaf...mostly the ends and sides.

                  4. There are differences and in some cases omissions in the die flaws to be found inside some of the symbol "frames" that are much more apparent than I have seen on originals.


                  There could be reasonable explanations for all of the above, but more analysis would have to be done, at least to satisfy me.


                  In a general sense I fail to see why anyone would be anymore afraid or leery of a TK ring than any other high end item? Most everything is being expertly faked and I don't that these are any easier or harder to learn than any other item. I know one thing for sure and that is if "they" can perfect HRs then badges, medals and SS decals to name just a few things, have already been perfected as all of those would be easier and with a higher pay off.

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                    #39
                    Thanks, I am trying to catch up on that massive thread.

                    chen, I too would really love to see more of that ring you posted.
                    Any chance that you could show more?

                    Thanks!

                    Chris

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                      #40
                      ...here's mine!
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                        #41
                        Now that we "understand" the nature of some these ring fakes, we have to now consider the possibility of fake Don Boyle certificates.

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                          #42
                          I guess anything is possible, but the unique way in which Don writes his COA's, I would say fakes would be very difficult if not impossible to duplicate.I have Don's wriiten COA and a typed one which I requested. Ron

                          Originally posted by 11C View Post
                          Now that we "understand" the nature of some these ring fakes, we have to now consider the possibility of fake Don Boyle certificates.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by tanker View Post
                            I guess anything is possible, but the unique way in which Don writes his COA's, I would say fakes would be very difficult if not impossible to duplicate.I have Don's wriiten COA and a typed one which I requested. Ron
                            I understand that they have been faked already. Since you know Don, ask him if that is not an issue. Faking that piece of paper and signature is a lot easier then correcting the flaws on a well executed fake ring, IMO.

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                              #44
                              Never heard of one being faked or seen a faked one. Have seen fake rings though! Ron

                              Originally posted by 11C View Post
                              I understand that they have been faked already. Since you know Don, ask him if that is not an issue. Faking that piece of paper and signature is a lot easier then correcting the flaws on a well executed fake ring, IMO.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by maestro View Post
                                ...here's mine!

                                That is a great looking ring. It clearly shows what to look for in how the skull&Bones made as a single unit are mounted into the ring, after it has been sized, joined and then had the leaf area that will be behind the skull ground down flat to host the the skull and bones....

                                I know that differences can be found on even the skulls used in 1944...maybe a few different molds used for these as the same time, but I would suggest that anyone interested in these rings really take time to understand what they should be seeing in this area.

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