SS NCO Tunic fot $34,000?

[kammo man]

I found a Civil War shell jacket in almost mint condition at the Dollar sale on La Brea a few years ago.
As long as you know what your are looking at you can do alright.
Knowing vintage fabrics is a big plus when looking at militaria , a skill that can be carried over from the vintage clothing business.

[PanzerJager1944]

I found a Civil War shell jacket in almost mint condition at the Dollar sale on La Brea a few years ago.
As long as you know what your are looking at you can do alright.
Knowing vintage fabrics is a big plus when looking at militaria , a skill that can be carried over from the vintage clothing business.

This is a very true statment, studying and knowing vintage cloth is a transferable skill that crosses over collecting many time periods. I my self pulled a civil war era vest out of a rack of old high school acting department costumes for a few dollars by knowing vintage fabrics. If I had to bet the shell jacket you found came out of a costume company, lots of artillery and calvary shells have turned up eminating from costume companys. I had a friend who was working on a historical film shoot a few years ago and the costume trailer was full of original civil war calvary shell jackets still being used by hollywood.

[Erik]

As nice as the tunic may be, with a price like this which is way beyond the norm, it has not much to do with collecting but all the more with greed. Sure, the dealer is is a nice and courteous guy but in the end he (and most dealers) don't care at all if they drive the prices through the roof. They only care about profit. To bad for all the other collectors. The sad thing is we all seem to follow this madness and drive each other nuts. Yes, in part we can blame ourselves for it but as the price of the tunic shows, dealers seem to lead this and are pushing this on and on. It is never enough. The saddest part, as suggested earlier, is that it might not even have been sold for that price, but that we are to believe that it is. If so, that can only have one reason. To drive prices up. Why? Greed.

For collectors with genuine interest and love of these artefacts this is a rather sad thing. So not feeling bitter but more sad actually.

Erik

[kammo man]

With all of this fake sewing floating around many do make the mistake of only knowing militaria .................

Knowledge only comes when one knows "old"


knowledge is power .

[PANZERPIONIERE]

The tunic was on HOLD, then removed a couple of days ago, so it was sold. Sure was a beauty, but WOW what a price!
Cooler if it had a CT.
S

[Max Wünsche]

Amen!

knowledge is power .

[nutmeg]

If that tunic brought 34k some of the ones I have, have just gone up 5x in value. However, you never know on these things, it may have been sold for less, or traded , etc.

[Sammler]

If that tunic brought 34k some of the ones I have, have just gone up 5x in value. However, you never know on these things, it may have been sold for less, or traded , etc.

Wow this surly puts the public ss collectables (market) ( I hate to use that term) all over the place.

On a different scope its this kind of stuff that has killed common army daggers I mean come on they are not even scarce as a benchmark whole and walla they are now $950.00 or plus for ordinary decent condition examples with some dealers.


An army dagger does not compare obviously but the scenario? Are you guys pricing yourself out of reasonable collecting?

[John Pic]

The collector community should prepare itself for the comming out of two famous SS personality uniforms...of KC winners whose names I shall not mention...who will make them available for sale remains to be seen but they have already been aquired by one dealer this will eventually come out and be known in the collector realm...The originality of them will be in question but the sources impeccable....but possibly manipulated. Thats all I will say keep your eyes and ears peeled for this great "discovery". And Please no PMs I wont answer any questions.. but since we are on the topic of greed and expensive uniforms be prepaired...The Fegelein tunic has emerged out of nowhere and now you will start to see others.

[Kengir]

famous SS personality uniforms...of KC winners whose names I shall not mention...

..The Fegelein tunic has emerged out of nowhere and now you will start to see others.

Wait... I think you just gave one away!!!

[jacquesf]

If that tunic brought 34k some of the ones I have, have just gone up 5x in value. However, you never know on these things, it may have been sold for less, or traded , etc.

Or not sold at all, just create the impression that it was sold to set a new value? Jacques

[Chad1]

greed

I've been following this thread for a while. Frankly, I can't believe it's still going. It's not like complaining about how much a certain dealer can get for a tunic is anything new. Besides to most of us, the difference between a $12k tunic and a $34k tunic doesn't mean anythign. Why? Because we aren't really playing in that market anyway. Sort of like, what difference does it make to me if a P.51 Mustang sells for a million bucks, or two million? It's irrelavent to most of us.

The reason I posted is because I've seen a few people throw out the G-word, that's right, Greed.

This dealer put a rare tunic on his sight with a big price tag so the entire world could see it and buy it if they wish. It certainly would appear that he has found a buyer for his price and it didn't even take that long. Good for him.

Greed is the guy who intercepts the vet, or family of the vet in the parking lot of a show, buys off their bringback souvinir for chips, taking advantage of them without their knowledge, then walks inside and sells it for a fortune. We know this happens all the time in this hobby, but I doubt it happened with a $34k tunic on the web for everyone to see.

[Hasse.M]

If that tunic brought 34k some of the ones I have, have just gone up 5x in value. However, you never know on these things, it may have been sold for less, or traded , etc.

Yeah probably traded against a couple of 5000$ m-43 heer caps and some 2000$ ek1

[A c h t u n g !]

This is a great tunic which researched showed to be an untouched original W SS NCO tunic. Congratulations to Bill in making the sale.

Ouch!,...this tunic used to be mine!

This tunic is EXACTLY the way it was captured except for the internal suspenders which have been added, otherwise it is "as found".

BTW, I sold it for $6,000.00 in 2003.
Chuck

What exactly has been researched and found about this tunic?
The original owner known? Verifiable story/documented history? Period picture in wear? Anything or just a list of dealer names that sold this tunic to each other previously? So what makes people believe it is untouched, the high price?

[John Pic]

Word of mouth...its ok when hearsay is used in certain circles,just not by unknowns and novices.

Kengir the Fegelein tunic would be one of possibly 3 or more that will "appear" on the market as recovered from "the families" of certain well known SS personalities....now keep in mind when this happens how rare it is, and that very few SS officer tunics from not so celebrity officers survived and were recovered from families....yet the famous people theirs miraculously seemed to have done that.