Just arrived NAMED A-SS GREATCOAT fulda+werra

[wewelsburg]

Ive seen several general coats with green collars,noone cares when your done your a baby!hers something else you didnt believe in yesterday!!!!along with all teh other things proven to you in past day,your never satisfied because your an a**hole

[wewelsburg]

Ever seen one of these Peter???howabout a green collared tunic with A-SS straps!!ON BOTH SIDES!dont worry the coat pic will be along soon,but since this one is MUCH rarer thought Id offer it.

[NickG]

Whats the point dragging this out more?! Its been established that both styles are ligit with SS. That coat is 100% "A" OK!
Could be tailoring preference. These are all custom made tailored overcoats in officers quality...
Regardless of regulations, the style is dictated by preference and perhaps affordability or practicality (field-use?),
as these are private purchase garments!

Even the SA apparently used both style back belts.
I'm sure we can over-analyse this one as well and find contradicting styles/specs compared with official SA regulations...
This hobby is full of anamolies,nothing new!
End of topic for me!

[wewelsburg]

Yeah another of Peters myths dispelld how no SA coats had army belts.peter you really are ridiculous,can you not see it yourself,did you have any friends growing up?I bet you were teh guy who said I DID IT BETTER!!whenever someone shared a story.

[PMan]

M-36

Ever seen one of these Peter???howabout a green collared tunic with A-SS straps!!ON BOTH SIDES!dont worry the coat pic will be along soon,but since this one is MUCH rarer thought Id offer it.

Nice m36 tunic with a-SS boards, wonderful, no problem. Where is the 1940 green collar great coat with those boards. I will be happy if u tell me you have no photo. No problem. Just a simple front shot of the green collar great coat with allgemeine SS boards. I do not understand why that would even exist. Please help me to understand that. Please stick to that point only. Thank you. I admit I am an a- hole, just try to find that photo if you can.
Peter

[wewelsburg]

FIRST OFF KARL WOLFF In an ARMY greatcoat with SS armband,early pic.

2nd Waffen but green collar and army belt style!see 1st guy on lower right,check the belt.


I need to find Mark Yergers book on allgemeine cant find it,sure there are pics in it.

[wewelsburg]

Fisrt off are you saying my coat isnt the real deal,because sir you are VERY wrong.Have you seen teh tailors tag,matched to the fulda werra unit hes from,that from a vet??in a group with WELL known with other prominentother tunics in Arthurs book?youve forgotten provenance along teh way.Its not feasible,there was no internet then etc.And what did they find a German army coat with a name tag that matched a guy in the Fulda werra? an officer? rare name like BAECKER and then find an officers cuff and full regalia around it,and build it?with all teh signs of german attached insignia and thread?The thread holding tailor tag also goes around teh top of pocket into the lining.no WAY to have faked it,tag is BUILT into coat .And writing is 100% german style and dated.again thread holding collar on is same holding insignia.If your trying to say my coats questionable,your DEAD wrong.I really hope your not saying that especially without seeing it in hand.

your a waste of my time,,do you not have tact or care to how others view you sir?Can I ask you HOW MANY times youve been proven wrong already her on this thread,only to be proven wrong again when another pic shows?See above green army allgemeine coat worn by Wolff hows that for starters,.Im sorry guys for entertaing this joke all this time.Oh can I see a labcoat?

[PMan]

Your coat

Fisrt off are you saying my coat isnt the real deal,because sir you are VERY wrong.Have you seen teh tailors tag,matched to the fulda werra unit hes from,that from a vet in the 70s?Its not feasible,there was no internet then etc.And what did they find a German coat with a name tag that matched a guy in the Fulda werra a rare name like BAECKER and then find an officers cuff and full regalia around it,and build it?The thread holding tailor tag also goes around teh top of pocket into the lining.you must be mad.again thread holding collar on is same holding insignia.If your trying to say my coats bad,your DEAD wrong.

Please stop defending YOUR coat. I am trying to understand more about the green collar great coat 39/40 model. Yes, your coat started this, but it is not my focus. If your coat would have had a straight SS belt, we would not be discussing this as we are. I am totally confused why Holters would produce an army style coat with allgemeine boards after 1940. I repeat, after 1940. Perhaps your coat is the only example in existence. That could be possible if no other photos exist to show otherwise.

[PMan]

Karl Wolff

Look at the hats in the Karl Wolf picture. Do you know what year that was??
1935. Your coat is from 1940!!!!!

[PMan]

Proven wrong

Oh, and No, I don't know how many times I've been proven wrong. Not many is my best guess. Perhaps you can produce a list. Proven wrong vs right. Keep it fair. Show me!

[wewelsburg]

YOU SAID ALLGEMEINE SS,and wouldnt they have had them WARTIME MORE THAN EVER!!You are full of NO KNOWLEDGE YOU DIDNT EVEN KNOW A_SS men wore eagles on tunics,you should have left the class with that remark Bozo!

OK here goes
PETERS 3 day track record{OH AND WITH 0 SUPPORTERS}6-0

Wewelsburgs record 0-6 with support from everyone on the forum who replied in this thread.And as also a neighboring forum.
BECAUSE you sir are the ALL KNOWING as youve proved below so graciously lets see here....


Ok track record

1 .SS men didnt wear army style belts at all...proven wrong

2 .SS men didnt wear green collared greatcoats WITH teh army style belt...proven wrong{EVEN LAH did in photo!}

3. SA men didnt wear army style coat belts...proven wrong

4. A-SS had no eagles on their coats...proven WAY wrong

5.Oh and SS wool armbands can have one row of stitching per stripe and be ok....wrong

6.Oh and my favorite...ready....Peter:"Also, how do you explain a sleeve eagle on an Allgemeine coat that is not LAH? "WOW WOW WOW do you even look at photos??think not!and yet you demand them,!!any one who has had a weeks experience in this subject knows the A-SS wore eagles on tunics!

7.Wartime A-SS greatcoat dont exist with green collar..proven wrong by my coat..and photo coming soon Im sure...


Peter EVEN THOUGH youve said it,you cant come up with ONE thing about this coat that is a red flag,besides the fact that you have no solid fact they didnt exist.I have the fact here in my home.EVERYONE ELSE all knowledgeable collectors AND your peers have said nothing wrong with it,U have been proven wrong all teh times above,but still press on,its not teh point of teh coat,you will do this on every thread!!Thats you,unliked,unwanted and unamusing.OH AND NEVER SATISFIED,after this as I said before its something else,you sir have been discredited and will be further Im sure.What do you have to gain you know all the WRONG answers?

FIN.

[PMan]

Proven Wrong

YOU SAID ALLGEMEINE SS,and wouldnt they have had them WARTIME MORE THAN EVER!!You are full of NO KNOWLEDGE YOU DIDNT EVEN KNOW A_SS men wore eagles on tunics,you should have left the class with that remark Bozo!

OK here goes
PETERS 3 day track record{OH AND WITH 0 SUPPORTERS}6-0

Wewelsburgs record 0-6 with support from everyone on the forum who replied in this thread.And as also a neighboring forum.
BECAUSE you sir are the ALL KNOWING as youve proved below so graciously lets see here....


Ok track record

1 .SS men didnt wear army style belts at all...proven wrong

2 .SS men didnt wear green collared greatcoats WITH teh army style belt...proven wrong{EVEN LAH did in photo!}

3. SA men didnt wear army style coat belts...proven wrong

4. A-SS had no eagles on their coats...proven WAY wrong

5.Oh and SS wool armbands can have one row of stitching per stripe and be ok....wrong

6.Oh and my favorite...ready....Peter:"Also, how do you explain a sleeve eagle on an Allgemeine coat that is not LAH? "WOW WOW WOW do you even look at photos??think not!and yet you demand them,!!any one who has had a weeks experience in this subject knows the A-SS wore eagles on tunics!

7.Wartime A-SS greatcoat dont exist with green collar..proven wrong by my coat..and photo coming soon Im sure...


Peter EVEN THOUGH youve said it,you cant come up with ONE thing about this coat that is a red flag,besides the fact that you have no solid fact they didnt exist.I have the fact here in my home.EVERYONE ELSE all knowledgeable collectors AND your peers have said nothing wrong with it,U have been proven wrong all teh times above,but still press on,its not teh point of teh coat,you will do this on every thread!!Thats you,unliked,unwanted and unamusing.OH AND NEVER SATISFIED,after this as I said before its something else,you sir have been discredited and will be further Im sure.What do you have to gain you know all the WRONG answers?

FIN.

Although tailored with your spin, you have proven that I have no knowledge. So let's leave me for now and get back to #7 on your list. A PHOTO COMING SOON. The reason I am on this forum is to gain knowledge to avoid making further "way wrong" statements. In my opinion, if your coat would have been SS cut , I would have assumed it was more of a traditions coat provided with with updated 1940's green collars still maintaining the allgemeine boards. What confused me was the army belt. This said to me that the coat was strickly waffen SS. So why the allgemeine boards? You yourself called it an A-SS coat, yet it is of army style. Well....that's fine, no problem. However, I would be more satisfied if a photo does turn up showing this was done during the period. (All the other difficult photos of the backsides did.) I'm not saying coats of this style didn't exist, I'm just saying that it would be good to see a period photo. According to you, Dave Delich wanted to purchase the coat. Does he have a photo? Now if a photo doesn't exist, then I alone would assume that you have the "only" coat like that.....and that's OK. Look at all the people who loved the coat at the beginning of your thread. I'm the only odd ball here and I admit that. Are you not interested in finding other examples of your coat? I would think you would be. This thread has proven out many important things about SS great coats. I hope the last piece of this quest will arrive in the form of any photo of a m-40 green collar coat with A-SS boards. The backside is unimportant. This is not a personal attack against you or your coat.

[judas]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=398061


peter am i reading this right you are bringing the boards in to question being on a coat of 1940 make . or because of the maker of the coat

[PMan]

Coat

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=398061


peter am i reading this right you are bringing the boards in to question being on a coat of 1940 make . or because of the maker of the coat

The question now is regarding the model 1940 green collar coat having allgemeine boards. Was the practice limited to Wewelsburg coat, or are there other examples from the period?

[John Pic]

I think unfortunately this thread is just a bickering contest..the BS is detracting from the knowledge shared.