BeVo SS Eagle Original? or Not?

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

Hey John,
I should have them ready by Tuesday, Sorry for the delay
Please HOLD



Thanks,
Michael

Thank,s Michael i,m very delited to see the pic.s
because these item,s get mine highest intrest

[Tony Barto]

Michael;

Is that a cap eagle or a sleeve eagle?

[MGN]

Hey Tony,
Sleeve eagle

Michael

[MGN]

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[MGN]

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[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

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Hello MGN thank,s for posting the new pic,s

Looking at the back I would say: a good one
Looking at the front and see how the stitching is done of the feather,s very loose not to thight I would also say a good one

But looking between his leg,s I myself didn,t saw this construction before
you also stated that this one was foulded together
maybe that is why he has a round head

I hope Gary of Tony or some other one,s can give an opion on this one

I myself can,t give a clear answer on this one

[MGN]

John,
The front is curved head but the back is straight as an arrow,
This is an odd looking eagle, only thing I know about this one its not a textbook example, but it came from the vets family up in Connecticut, US.

Because we haven't seen this example we cant dismiss it as a reproduction,
Hmm this turns out to be a very intersting thread

Michael

[badcat]

nice

very nice!

[Gary Wood]

"On the other forum I posted once some scans of an sleeve eagle on a Latvian great coat which was copied after this one. Perhaps I am wrong and will this be a fake, but I believe it's a good one, with the humble experience I have though. "




I have asked mgn to do a couple of thing for me and no doubt he will post the results.

I would though have liked to see a good flat bed scan of the item so maybe in time when mgn gets a scanner :-),
cheers,
Gary

Below is the fake Cees mentioned

[Gary Wood]

a better detail shot, unfortunately i have no photo's of the back, as you can see this eagle does not have a woven black area around the eagle, it is woven in white thread directly onto the welt
cheers,
Gary

[Ian Hulley]

I throw this up as an observation and perhaps for comment from those in the know.Looking at this eagle (which I find myself not liking) look at the black spots on the neck itself...now look at the black spots on the droopy-eyed TK discussed last week (which I had an example of years ago and which I never quite believed in) I see a pattern forming.I've never seen one of these eagles before,which in itself means nothing,but this spotty weave feature swings my opinion firmly against it.Stubborn as I can be,I remain firmly open to further education.

Kind regards,

Ian Hulley

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

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hello I still like the eagle from MGN
also a scan would be best to see more detail,s
If you look carefull at the one MGN posted and the fake posted by GARY you see
a lot of diferrence,s (I hope i don,t have to explain witch one,s)

And also the back I do like i shall post later this day the back of an well known originall


Greeting,s johnny

P.s MGN I bought a month ago a brand new-scanner

[C. Kleijn]

Thanks for posting those pictures Gary! Yes John, I also think the eagle of MGN is a fine original. Isn't the eagle of MGN the same as the one Mr. Beaver posted in the same thread concerning the Latvian great coat Gary?

All the best,

Cees

[MGN]

Hello everyone,
I am getting new and better photos today, also will post the reults Gary talked about,

Michael

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

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Hello as promised here are the back,s of 2 well knoworiginall,s
Comparing these with the back of the one MGN posted
I feel very comfertable with his eagle
Also the front has some feature,s I like