In the interest of full disclosure let me say that I don't collect honor rings but after reading the 200 plus posts that make up this thread, the question that comes to my mind is who in their right mind would pay anywhere near a retail price for an HR? Militaria, if not being killed by state-of-the-art fakes, is being equally savaged by inneundo, half-truths, agendas, vendettas, self-professed experts, and willful ignorance. Let me happily inform any potential HR buyers that I will never be your competition!
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"Gaspard is Gottlieb."
It was clear to me right from the start.
It turns now into a psychological thing: pathological narcissism.
That´s often the case when intelligent people do not get the attention in society as deserved due to their outstanding talents - what they often receive instead is really hurting evil jealousy, especially from real bitches and dumb a**holes.
At some point that makes such individuals becoming a - very successful - loner and often enough the wish and longing for money is a redirection activity which may turn out worse and finally all energy they can afford is being turned into negative energy: to receive more money, to numb.
But these guys are too smart to fool themselves and so the money which enables them to benumb themselves can never really cover that they are longing for acceptance, for friendship, for love - and not really for money itself.
Because that´s something one never ever can afford with money and they know that but with money it does not hurt that much...well, for some time at least.
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Originally posted by TheGoodWitch View PostGaspard is Gottlieb. This is a silly thread obviously Gottlieb has an agenda and his mystery supporter whose name is almost the same as Gaspare just makes it smell even fisher. The only time C Gottlieb posts anything is make accusations against Don B. I can say that I have read Craigs book and was dissappointed to say the least. I wouldnt trust his ideas because of his obvious agenda to attack Don B.
To Gaspare : you think it's funny to criticize my english ? We can try in French if you prefer. I try my best and sorry.
As i posted before, i'm not a Gottlieb fan (above all after what happened with the story of von salish ring). I don't know him. But i have some confidence on Boyle and this story just make me feel that i will follow ss militaria with more caution.
Dr Dolch and DaveG posted some interesting opinions.
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Very well put. It's called 'Transference'.
Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post"Gaspard is Gottlieb."
It was clear to me right from the start.
It turns now into a psychological thing: pathological narcissism.
That´s often the case when intelligent people do not get the attention in society as deserved due to their outstanding talents - what they often receive instead is really hurting evil jealousy, especially from real bitches and dumb a**holes.
At some point that makes such individuals becoming a - very successful - loner and often enough the wish and longing for money is a redirection activity which may turn out worse and finally all energy they can afford is being turned into negative energy: to receive more money, to numb.
But these guys are too smart to fool themselves and so the money which enables them to benumb themselves can never really cover that they are longing for acceptance, for friendship, for love - and not really for money itself.
Because that´s something one never ever can afford with money and they know that but with money it does not hurt that much...well, for some time at least.
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I currently have 3 boxes in my possession, all of which are identically constructed. The Teply Box (thanks, Larry Lipps), a box that Don Boyle certified at an earlier date, and the Klohn box. I will in fact begin a new thread shortly, after my merchandise arrives back from MAX, and I have time do conduct a photographic comparison.
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Gaspard, "you think it's funny to criticize my english?"
Sorry ,but you've misunderstood, I commend you on it...
Craig, post all the photos of the boxes you want,,we believe you they're probably all good otherwise you wouldn't post here.
Don and the other person that saw the ring/box says its not the box shown here. So you'd be calling 2 people liars if you don't believe..
I've known Don a long time and never known him to outright lie,,and the other persons reputation is above & beyond reproach,,he's not lying period....
This topic proved nothing except for everyone here to see Craig's agenda is to damage Dons reputation ,and some pretty photos of the HR & box.. Good luck with the set...............
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Originally posted by Gaspare View PostGaspard, "you think it's funny to criticize my english?"
Don and the other person that saw the ring/box says its not the box shown here. So you'd be calling 2 people liars if you don't believe..
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Don't close it! Wasn'the issue of it not being the same box was a brought up before the show. Didn't you address it doing the meeting that was supposed to happen doing the MAX! You had the perfect time to get it addressed. Who did you actually meet with todiscuss teh ring/box?
This does nothing more than strenghten the thought of something isn't as right it should be.
Originally posted by Craig Gottlieb View PostNot the same box? It's a bit late for that. Classic really. I agree. Close the thread.
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Not the same box but for some reason Don wanted to buy this "poor reproduction box" Come on, of all the lame and idiotic excuses I have ever heard, somehow the family must have switched this "poor reproduction box" for an original. After all we know ow common these things are. This story of his is absurd! He tried to get this set for cheap by screwing the family and came up short, that is the bottom line for everyone to see.
best wishes,
jeffLast edited by Jeff V; 10-04-2010, 10:13 AM.Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.
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As I said, we tried, and this "eleventh hour" claim after a month of chances to come clean or provide a retraction, is sad and quite transparent. I tried my best to approach the other parties with an olive branch, so we could get together and study the boxes together. Larry Lipps and I took the effort to bring together the 3 boxes - Teply, another with a Boyle COA, and the Klohn COA. Skip Greenwade and I also sat down and learned the boxes, which were all identical. I have postage receipts, original photographs from the family dated from well before this all started, an audio recording of the family spokesperson describing the whole fiasco, a letter from them describing what took place, my check to the family for the price for the politically damaged goods, etc. I will be doing another article on these boxes, at my leisure, on my website, and you can read it there. The article will also be part of Volume II of my book. It will NOT be an expose on another dealer's behavior. That has already taken place, and it's time to move on.
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How do you know this? We are hearing and reading what only CG has said/posted.
Ron
Originally posted by Jeff V View PostNot the same box but for some reason Don wanted to buy this "poor reproduction box" Come on, of all the lame and idiotic excuses I have ever heard, somehow the family must have switched this "poor reproduction box" for an original. After all we know ow common these things are. This story of his is absurd! He tried to get this set for cheap by screwing the family and came up short, that is the bottom line for everyone to see.
best wishes,
jeff
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