SS Sturmbannfuhrer medical shouldeboard detail, it appaer to be hnd sewn stitched on the shoulder and the shoulder is light padded, how often we can found in tailored officer tunics.
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I was wondering if anyone had any success researching this tunic, or if there were any further thoughts on its construction and details.Comment
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I've looked at this tunic and I've looked at this tunic and I'm impressed with it and I've researched it and come up with a couple of doctors that were active in1944 & '45. Much of this division was destroyed, I'm just wondering if this piece survived.? Anybody have more info?
Thank you,
GComment
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Lorenzo,
Was it worn open collared? I have an LAH NCO that was worn open, and it is very worn and obvious that it was always worn that way....is it the same with this tunic? Thanks,
RichardComment
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I am trying to trace the person's name, but I need some help with a very basic question - how many doctors with a rank of major did a Waffen SS division have? Was it just one or could there have been few?Comment
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This is from the Axis History web site courtsey of Mike Melnyk:
Officer - Service Positions of 14 Galician Division Winter 1944/45
Division Staff: Feld Post Nr. 15 000
Div.-Kdr.: SS-Brigadeführer Fritz Freitag
1.Gen.St.Offz. Major Wolf Dietrich Heike
Ord.Offz.1: SS-Ostuf. Rudolph Michel
Ia / Gabo: SS-Ostuf. Hermann Schneider
Ic: SS-Hstuf. Fritz Niermann
IcA: SS-Hstuf. Heinrich Wiens
Ord.Off.3: SS-Ostuf. Wilhelm Schenker
IIa: SS-Strm. Erich Finder
Ib: SS-Hstuf. Herbert Schaaf
Ord. Off.II: SS- Ostuf. Dr Werner Rubneow
Wa-Mn.: SS-Hstuf. German Christl
III: SS-Strm. Hans-Georg Ziegler, SS-Ustuf. Wilhem Bethke
IVa: SS-Strm. Otto Sulzbach
IVb: SS-Strm. Dr. Max Specht
IVc: SS-Ostubaf. Dr. Oskar Kopp
V: SS-Strm. Heinz Behrndt
VI: SS-Strm. Karl-Robert Zoglauer
IVb/Z. SS-Strm. Dr. Georg Coldeway
IVz: SS-Ostuf. Meyer
KdtSt.Qu.: SS-Ostuf. Ernst Gebhardt
Musikm.: SS-Oberscharführer Johannes Thiessen
Feldgen.: SS-Ostuf. Wilhelm Drappatz
ausserden:
bei Ib/Wa.-Mun.: SS-Ostuf. Paul Vockenroth
kdtz.Ib: SS-Hstuf. Paul Wachowski
kdt.z.Ic: Waffen-Hstuf. Dmytro Ferkuniak
kdt.z.Ic: Waffen-Oberscharführer Oberfähnrich Bohdan Lyssiak
z.b.V. Div.Kdr.: SS-Ostuf. Johannes Georgi
b.Abt.III SS-Hstuf. Gerhard Hermann
b.Abt. IVa: SS-Hstuf. Schulte
b.Abt. VI: Waffen-Hstuf. Liubomyr Makarushka
a.Abt. VI: SS-Ostuf. Freidrich Lenhardt
b.Abt. VI: Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Michael Levenetz, Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Liubomyr Sevenkyi
a.Abt. IBb: SS-Ostuf. Dr. Günther
Kartenstelle: SS-Unteroffizier Bogener
WGR-29.
Stab. F.P. Nr. 00 650
Kdr. SS-Standartenführer Friedrich Dern
Adj. SS-Hstuf. Hans Ditze
I. Btl. F.P.Nr. 03 368
SS-Ostuf. Karl Wildner
II. Btl. F.P.Nr. 07 226
SS-Strm. Otto Blankenhorn
III. Btl. F.P.Nr. 07 226
SS-Hstuf. Hans Salzinger
Pfarrer Waffen-Ostuf. Sydir Nahayevskyi
WGR-30.
Stab. F.P.Nr. 05 330
Kdr.SS-Ostubaf. Hans Boto Forstreuter
Adj. SS-Hstuf. Eberhard Kurkowsky
I. Btl. F.P.Nr. 09 084
SS-Hstuf. Siegfried Klocker
II. Btl. F.P.Nr. 10 227
SS-Strm. Albert Czermin
III. Btl. F.P.Nr. 23 374
SS-Strm. Freidrich Wittenmeyer
Pfarrer Waffen-Ostuf. Mykhailo Ratushynskyi
WGR-31.
Stab F.P.Nr. 11 088
Kdr. SS-Standartenführer Rudolf Pannier
Adj. SS-Ostuf. Günter Weiss
I. Btl. F.P.Nr. 19 265
SS-Strm. Wilhelm Podlesch
II. Btl. F.P.Nr. 16 138
SS-Strm. Elmer Scholz
III. Btl. F.P.Nr. 28 714
SS-Strm. Heinz Kurzbach
Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Bohdan Levytskyi
Artillerie-Rgt. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 02 002
Kdr. SS-Standartenführer Friedrich Beyersdorff
Adj. SS-Hstuf. Erwin Muller
OO SS-Ustuf. Richard Braun
I. Abt. F.P.Nr. 21 985
SS-Hstuf. Kurt Glass
II. Abt. F.P.Nr. 15 107
SS-Hstuf. Günter Sparsam
III. Abt. F.P.Nr. 20 213
Hstuf. Emil-Johann Schlesinger
IV. Abt. F.P.Nr. 25 614
SS-Strm. Otto Beissel
Pfarrer Waffen-Ostuf. Emanuel Korduba
Fusilier-Btl. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 01 461
Kdr. SS-Strm. Karl Bristot
Adj. SS-Ostuf. Schmitten
Panzerjäger-Abt. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 30 904
Kdr. SS-Strm. Hermann Kaschner
Adj. Ostuf. Hans Kellner
Pioneer Btl. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 29 826
Kdr. SS-Strm. Josef Remberger
Adj. SS-Ostuf. Horst Glöckner
Nachrichten-Abt. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 24 047
Kdr. SS-Strm. Werner Heinz
Adj. SS-Ustuf. Hans Kaufmann
Div.Nachschub-Truppen 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 31 283
Kdr. SS-Ostubaf. Franz Magill
Adj. SS-Strm. Willi Haase
Verwaltungs-Truppen 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 06 771
Kdr. Strm. Otto Sulzbach
Adj. SS-Ostuf. Mayer
Sanitäts-Truppen 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 12 102
Kdr. SS-Strm. Dr. Max Specht
Adj. Ostuf. Dr. Herbert Günther
1. San.Kp. F.P.Nr. 22 317
Oberstabsarzt Dr. Helmut Schmidt
2. San.Kp. F.P.Nr. 18 480
SS-Hstuf. Dr Gerhard Stridde
Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Ian Tomashivskyi
Feldlazarette F.P.Nr. 44 741, SS-Oberstabsarzt. Dr. Schmidt
Werkstatt Kp. F.P.Nr. 28 612, Waffen-Hstuf. Leonard Martiniuk
Veterinär-Kp. F.P.Nr. 27 592, Stabsvet. SS-Strm. Dr. Thomas Andresen
Feldpostamt 14. (F.P. Nr. 29 400) SS-Ustuf. Hermann Hielscher
Feld Ersatz Btl.
Stab F.P.Nr. 28 966
Kdr. SS-Strm. Johannes Kleinow
Adj. SS-Ustuf. Manfred Reichenbach
Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Julian Gabrusevych
Ausb. u. Ers. Rgt. 14.
Stab F.P.Nr. 39 336
Kdr. SS-Obersturmbannf. Carl Marks
Adj. SS-Hstuf. Helmut Roggenkamp
I.Btl. F.P.Nr. 67 249
SS-Hstuf. Rudolph Hartung
Pfarrer Waffen-Ustuf. Danylo Kovaliuk
II. Btl. F.P.Nr. 37 682
SS-Hstuf. Werner Pöhls
III. Btl. F.P.Nr. 64 425
SS- Strm. Ewald Eduard Schramm
Ersatz Btl.
SS-Ostuf. Mathias Huber.Melnyk
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Tunic
Hello
I was just following this thread about the tunic which I know is also being dicussed on another forum.
First of all you are right that the German element of the unit (that is those who did not escape and return home) were interned in Italy. Here the Bristish who gauarded them, helped themselves to most things fo value, weapons, equipment, jewellry (such as watches and rings), paperwork etc. I know from many veterans that they had their belongings 'stolen' in this way. what the prisoners often did was give up one item in order to save another - sp for example if they handed in one hand gun, the managed to keep another. what was left they sometimes traded with the gaurds for food. I also know for a fact that when the Ukrainian element of theis division was brought back to England after a couple of years in Italy, many of them still had their original issue German service tunics. Those who kept the best items including medals and cammo gear were generaly those who had gone into hiding and not held in the internment camps. Paperwork was often most easily hidden in the bottom of boots and shoes etc.
As for who this may have belonged to, I can be sure that it was not KOPP. I have several pictures of him and he was not an "old fighter" entitled to wear the cheveron.
The Division did have several doctors of this rank. I will check my papers and see who if any were "old fighers" and then see if I can find pics of them wearing the chevron
best wishes
Mike Melnyk
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Hello
the following German Drs were serving with the Galician division with the rank of SS Stubaf. in May 1945
Dr Thomas Andresen, 19.7.06, SS No: 137 169
Dr Herbert Booß, 21. 8.08, SS No: 139 223
Dr Georg Coldeway, 11. 7.10, SS No: 337 728
Dr Helmut Pickardt, 19. 3.06, SS No: 251 099
Dr Helmut Schmitt, 6. 3.10, SS No: 28 967
Dr Gerhard Stridde, 26.12.93, SS No: 187 591
As Schmitt had the lowest SS no he would seem the most likely candidate
best wishes
Mike MelnykComment
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Hello Melnyk,
Thanks, very interesting, could be good know wich doctors had also the Alter Kampfer chewron..
Lorenz
Originally posted by Melnyk View PostHello
the following German Drs were serving with the Galician division with the rank of SS Stubaf. in May 1945
Dr Thomas Andresen, 19.7.06, SS No: 137 169
Dr Herbert Booß, 21. 8.08, SS No: 139 223
Dr Georg Coldeway, 11. 7.10, SS No: 337 728
Dr Helmut Pickardt, 19. 3.06, SS No: 251 099
Dr Helmut Schmitt, 6. 3.10, SS No: 28 967
Dr Gerhard Stridde, 26.12.93, SS No: 187 591
As Schmitt had the lowest SS no he would seem the most likely candidate
best wishes
Mike MelnykComment
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Thanks for the interesting info Mike! I am curious about this person - doesn't this name sound very English?
Dr Georg Coldeway, 11. 7.10, SS No: 337 728Comment
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SS-Galizien Bevo Shield
Thank you very much, Mike, for the info.
GComment
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And Kopp was a veterinarian, not a medical doctor (He was IVc, not IVb).Originally posted by Melnyk View PostTunic
Hello
I was just following this thread about the tunic which I know is also being dicussed on another forum.
First of all you are right that the German element of the unit (that is those who did not escape and return home) were interned in Italy. Here the Bristish who gauarded them, helped themselves to most things fo value, weapons, equipment, jewellry (such as watches and rings), paperwork etc. I know from many veterans that they had their belongings 'stolen' in this way. what the prisoners often did was give up one item in order to save another - sp for example if they handed in one hand gun, the managed to keep another. what was left they sometimes traded with the gaurds for food. I also know for a fact that when the Ukrainian element of theis division was brought back to England after a couple of years in Italy, many of them still had their original issue German service tunics. Those who kept the best items including medals and cammo gear were generaly those who had gone into hiding and not held in the internment camps. Paperwork was often most easily hidden in the bottom of boots and shoes etc.
As for who this may have belonged to, I can be sure that it was not KOPP. I have several pictures of him and he was not an "old fighter" entitled to wear the cheveron.
The Division did have several doctors of this rank. I will check my papers and see who if any were "old fighers" and then see if I can find pics of them wearing the chevron
best wishes
Mike MelnykComment
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