SS evening dress Broach

[Sayle F]

mess badge

Here is the back of the skull on my example for comparison purposes.

Tom

You get that from Bob ?

[Ludwig]

Bruce Hermann had one for sale on his website in 2005, the price was $4,500.00, though his did not have the red cloth behind the eyes.

P.S. Welcome to the forum.

Like the first one showed in this thread?
Nothing else sounds impossible to me...

[Ludwig]

If "Weitze, Burmeister, Hirtz, Verbruggen, Jenkins, Stiles, etc." all blessed these and they turn out to be fake, we have a serious problem in this hobby.

No one knows everything, not even the ones you mention here! IMO.

[Bob Hritz]

No one knows everything, not even the ones you mention here! IMO.

Ludwig is absolutely correct. I, for one, am still learning.

Bob Hritz

[Ludwig]

We all are, Bob!

[tgn]

You get that from Bob ?

Yes

[Sayle F]

mess badge

Yes

Thought it looked familiar. That badge was a lucky find from the SOS back in 2004 or 05 cant remember.

[Jon Fish]

Dealer cons other dealers out of thousands......

Well unfortunatly not at all because they will all get their money back, and those that see the WAF will get their money back, what about those that don't have internet access [dont forget some don't still] they will never know.

[mametz]

Winkler must have more neck than a giraffe and skin like a rhino, to
sell these at a big event like the SOS. More than likely an honest
mistake on his part, what was that? surely not !
Mametz

[tgn]

Thought it looked familiar. That badge was a lucky find from the SOS back in 2004 or 05 cant remember.

Really, do you know about this?

BTW, just curious, how did you recognize it just from the reverse photo of the skull?

Tom

[Richard P]

Really, do you know about this?

BTW, just curious, how did you recognize it just from the reverse photo of the skull?

Tom

Tom,

He is the one who scored that lucky find originally...and he has an excellent memory for detail.

Richard

[tgn]

Tom,

He is the one who scored that lucky find originally...and he has an excellent memory for detail.

Richard

Wow, that is great. I would like to know the whole story so I can document it with my example.

Tom

[Richard P]

Is there anyway that someone who has one of these fakes could post the best possible closeup picture of one of the round heads, (both, the side and also a straight-on shot of the teeth on the outer edge)?
The originals have some distinct features and I would love to see how those look closeup.

Thanks!

Chris

Chris- do you know if the nuts are different on the fakes as well, we see hex style nuts, and then these round textured nuts on the SOS examples?

John

Here are a couple of shots that were requested.

Richard

[Richard P]

Wow, that is great. I would like to know the whole story so I can document it with my example.

Tom

Tom,

I know the story, but I'll get you the whole story...in exchange for my photo request of your famous owner breast eagle.

I will get it for you either way, just giving you a hard time. I will email it.

Richard

[Military]

Gents, are we providing the fakers with too much information now?
I bet they are now retooling their dies and reordering their screws.

Mil