TK tab E Stand

[Sonny]

Yes, the rank tab is also fake, Sonny

[B. N. Singer]

...resolving the issue of who was involved and to what degree in the clear attempt to commit a fraud using this forum?...but I believe it needs to be pursued and answers are owed to this community, which have not been provided.

Sir, don't hold your breath or perhaps when pigs fly.

B. N. Singer

[Fritz]

Great. Everyone now agrees that the tab in question is a fake. I believe that fact was actually well established by other forum members a while ago in this thread, but Grant's contribution certainly seems to have eliminated any lingering doubt (resistance) in anyone's mind.

So, can we now move on to resolving the issue of who was involved and to what degree in the clear attempt to commit a fraud using this forum? Lest anyone accuse me of trying to pursue some sort of personal grudge, I will gladly remain out of the discussion going forward, but I believe it needs to be pursued and answers are owed to this community, which have not been provided.

That is the problem I have with you and not just in that thread it is your lack of objectivity. You like to pump this up to what it is not, completely refusing to consider the possibilty that the actual fraud took place long before I have put them on the estand. That is because the source I have them from swears to me that he has bought them as originals, I do believe him and only acted in good intent.

Most others participating in that thread base their posts on reason. Your aim is spectacle and nothing else and it is always like that, when I look at your posts in many threads they to me appear cocky and nothing else. The problem is that with that tone you won't be successful in receiving answers to your aggressively presented questions.

I also am aware of the fact that you like to ignore that some people are not very forthcoming when it comes to finding the people involved. We could also ask Grant to interview the italian person from back then in order to find out where exactly these came from but I am affarid that for obvious reasons the answers will not be plenty.

I wish I was like you and could present guesses as facts. If so I might guess this and that.


Thank you!

[bwanek1]

That is the problem I have with you and not just in that thread it is your lack of objectivity. You like to pump this up to what it is not, completely refusing to consider the possibilty that the actual fraud took place long before I have put them on the estand. That is because the source I have them from swears to me that he has bought them as originals, I do believe him and only acted in good intent.

Most others participating in that thread base their posts on reason. Your aim is spectacle and nothing else and it is always like that, when I look at your posts in many threads they to me appear cocky and nothing else. The problem is that with that tone you won't be successful in receiving answers to your aggressively presented questions.

I also am aware of the fact that you like to ignore that some people are not very forthcoming when it comes to finding the people involved. We could also ask Grant to interview the italian person from back then in order to find out where exactly these came from but I am affarid that for obvious reasons the answers will not be plenty.

I wish I was like you and could present guesses as facts. If so I might guess this and that.


Thank you!

You know nothing about me. In any case, your baseless accusations are merely more diversion to draw attention away from you so that you can get away with providing no real answers.

So your claim is (as I previously stated in this thread was a possibility) that you are just an ignorant pawn in this fraud...and you claim that your unnamed source is also. How convenient.

As a minimum, by your own admission, you violated estand rules by offering something for sale which did not belong to you.

[B. N. Singer]

What seems more interesting, or a better term disturbing, about this thread, is that there have been assertions made that this style of TK tab was seen amongst a large “documented find” of Original TK items. Suggesting to me a much wider and nefarious action. Very likely costing significant loss for some unsuspecting individuals.

B. N. Singer

[Fritz]

You know nothing about me. In any case, your baseless accusations are merely more diversion to draw attention away from you so that you can get away with providing no real answers.

So your claim is (as I previously stated in this thread was a possibility) that you are just an ignorant pawn in this fraud...and you claim that your unnamed source is also. How convenient.

As a minimum, by your own admission, you violated estand rules by offering something for sale which did not belong to you.

That is only your false interpretation. I refuse to keep on discussion with you as you are not listening to reason. Your only aim is to appear to the forum as the "great revealer". You are just interested in attention for your person and that to me is so apparent.

Now, let us agree to disagree because a conversation between the two of us will lead nowhere as far as the topic is concerned.

Thank you!

[Gary Wood]

There are some larger shots in the link below (and some in the fake thread as well) of some of the fake tabs posted , one of them (tk and #18) resurfaced a little later with the number removed

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294912

[Fritz]

What seems more interesting, or a better term disturbing, about this thread, is that there have been assertions made that this style of TK tab was seen amongst a large “documented find” of Original TK items. Suggesting to me a much wider and nefarious action. Very likely costing significant loss for some unsuspecting individuals.

B. N. Singer

That is a question which will be addressed by others I am sure, my knowledge on that grouping is limited compared to what others know about it.

Please note that I am not claiming that the tabs that were found in that grouping are fake. I am now convinced that the tabs posted by me are fake but these were never presented as part of that group.


Fritz

[bwanek1]

That is only your false interpretation. I refuse to keep on discussion with you as you are not listening to reason. Your only aim is to appear to the forum as the "great revealer". You are just interested in attention for your person and that to me is so apparent.

Now, let us agree to disagree because a conversation between the two of us will lead nowhere as far as the topic is concerned.

Thank you!

Darn, I was so hoping to earn my "great revealer" merit badge. Oh, well.

I will be more than glad to be rid of this redundant exchange if it serves to eliminate your using me as a silly excuse for not explaining your actions in violation of forum rules and the extent of your involvement and that of your mystery accomplice in the attempted fraud.

OK, I am out...now explain yourself to the rest of the forum!

[Fritz]

your involvement and that of your mystery accomplice in the attempted fraud.

How in the world could I take someone seriously who says that? Again, that shows you don't care at all who is behind that in reality, you constantly say it was me. Right now all information I have leads to you as the culprit, you see?


Fritz

[bwanek1]

There are some larger shots in the link below (and some in the fake thread as well) of some of the fake tabs posted , one of them (tk and #18) resurfaced a little later with the number removed

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294912

Notice anything interesting about that second photo, Gary?

The background is identical to that in the photo used by our friend Fritz (or his mystery friend) in the for-sale thread of the bogus tab that started this thread.

Someone's got some more explaining to do!

[Fritz]

Notice anything interesting about that second photo, Gary?

The background is identical to that in the photo used by our friend Fritz (or his mystery friend) in the for-sale thread of the bogus tab that started this thread.

Someone's got some more explaining to do!

If your ego allows you to do that you might want to take a 2nd look.


Fritz

[bwanek1]

If your ego allows you to do that you might want to take a 2nd look.


Fritz

We are still waiting for answers from you.

[BDE]

conspiracy theory ? ? ? Part 1

robert,
then why are you suggesting that? Really, i think that is not constructive at all.

Well, three of the tabs available now are from the plabst group. At least to my knowledge but you have claimed that you did inspect the group when it was found and back then you say these tabs were not a part of the group. That leaves two options:

1. I have taken it the wrong way and you never inspected the group when it was found.

2. My information is wrong.

It would help to solve that question. Is it possible that i misunderstood what you were saying?

Fritz

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[BDE]

conspiracy theory part 2 ? ?

Can anyone prove beyond doubt that the tabs are fakes?

The person who found the group can confirm they was in the group when he bought it. The person who bought it from him can also confirm it.

There are also photos, maybee one will be shown when the presumed fake is posted.

I think the one who say these are bad must provide some info why they are bad first and show the fake tabs in "raw" condition.

Cheers
Peter

I think one of you needs to let the cat out of the bag ?

Brian