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    #286
    Skulls

    Originally posted by kenneth wolfe View Post
    I was wondering if someone could if these look time period or not. This is the only picture I have.

    Thanks
    Kenneth
    These are not ss skulls, they are army panzer. Come to think of it though, I did have an allgemeine ss em hat with one of these on it. Not regulation for sure.
    Peter

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      #287
      Period

      Originally posted by Peter Manzie View Post
      These are not ss skulls, they are army panzer. Come to think of it though, I did have an allgemeine ss em hat with one of these on it. Not regulation for sure.
      Peter
      Not sure if these are period, sorry!

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        #288
        Those are not the typical shape side prongs for this type panzer skull...Tom

        At least, not for original ones, that is...

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          #289
          Thank you Robin for your answer

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            #290
            Skull

            This is the only RZM marked early SS totenkopf you ever see. It was made by Steinhauer & Luuck of Ludenscheid. (You can see the St.&L. logo on the left).
            I have 2 exactly like it. There may be other companies, but I've never seen any. This type of marking system was common in the early RZM items.

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              #291
              Skull

              P.S. I was referring to the SECOND example. The original posted one is surely fake.

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                #292
                Skull

                Looks original to me. Nice piece. Now buy an SS Kepi or nice early style peaked cap, and slap it on there!!

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                  #293
                  Looks like the fakes in circulation in the UK in the mid>late 70's .... ask Robin ... he may remember ;-)

                  Ian.

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                    #294
                    Early SS skull?

                    Hello!

                    I got this with an unsold badge lot at a coin auction.

                    Is it original? If so, does it have some sort of model name?


                    Regards, Stefan







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                      #295
                      Skull

                      I'd say repro. Prongs on early totenkopfs I've seen have always been brass. The angle of the tips of prongs are usually cut into a sharp point or flat, NOT at a half-assed angle. Also the prongs are placed at the bottom on this one, instead of near the middle, like usual. This doesn't even make sense. The finish, especially on the back looks very weird. Who chewed on the corner? This area doesn't match overall condition.

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                        #296
                        Thanks for your reply.
                        Yes, I can actually feel something on my fingers after I've had it in my hands. Perhaps some talcum or what one use when it was casted?


                        Regards,
                        Stefan

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                          #297
                          Early Totenkopf

                          This is an early one that is marked, although most aren't. If you look closely, you can make out the letters, St.&L. (Steinhauer & Luuck in Ludenscheid). This is the only manufacturer I've seen on this early insignia, and I've seen a few of them so marked. Probably circa 1934. One of the prongs has been resoldered. The third photo is EXACTLY the same badge and manufacturer, and was placed on a well worn early cap that I got with no insignia.
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                            #298
                            Totenkopf

                            reverse...
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                              #299
                              Totenkopf

                              In action...
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                                #300
                                Totenkopf

                                Another view of first badge..
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