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    #16
    I hope this picture helps

    I also asked about the dogtag and this is the answer I got:

    Kennmarke : Höherer ss und polizeiführer im breich 9 ( Fulda )

    Müller ist 1944 nr. 3 in der Liste
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      #17
      Hello Ive got one just like this .With the same writeing inside. Mine has that worn look to but in alittle better shape. "Lativian" I beleive. Best regards.

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        #18
        Originally posted by dav View Post
        Hello Ive got one just like this .With the same writeing inside. Mine has that worn look to but in alittle better shape. "Lativian" I beleive. Best regards.
        You mean that yours have the word "Latvian" written inside?
        This has "Müller" + something else.

        /André

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          #19
          Hi

          I still have not seen anything that would want me to put my hand in my pocket and get out the cheque book.

          The yellowish back lighting and poor photographs do not help, but I have seen enough red flags to advise caution with this one.

          I would, however, like to see the Himmler inscription. Can you please post the name of the recipient and award date for us?

          Best wishes

          Raymond

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            #20
            Originally posted by Raymond Griffiths View Post
            Hi

            I still have not seen anything that would want me to put my hand in my pocket and get out the cheque book.

            The yellowish back lighting and poor photographs do not help, but I have seen enough red flags to advise caution with this one.

            I would, however, like to see the Himmler inscription. Can you please post the name of the recipient and award date for us?

            Best wishes

            Raymond
            Hi Raymond.

            I have asked the seller for some mre pictures of the inscription inside the ring.
            I know that the recipient name is Müller, but I don't know the award date.

            Hopefully the seller will send me better pictures and some more info on the ring.

            regards,
            André

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              #21
              I have asked for pictures od the inscription twice, but all I get is some more info like this:
              generalmajor der Polizei Rudolf Müller (09/08/44-04/45)

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                #22
                Hi

                Maybe it is a language problem with the seller, but maybe not.

                Müller is a very, very common name and favoured by fakers as it makes identification of an individual recipient very difficult. I am not quite sure what the seller means by Nr#3 in 1944 list. I presume he is referrring to the Dienstaltersliste.

                Perhaps he could send scans of his supporting paperwork about Müller? It is worth asking, but I would not hold my breath if I was you.

                Did anyone look at the dogtag for you?

                You may get a better response on the ID forum. I have had a quick look, but I would prefer not to make a judgement as I do not know enough.

                Raymond
                Last edited by Raymond Griffiths; 10-27-2007, 10:47 AM.

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                  #23
                  Here are some more pictures that I got from the seller.
                  I also got some more info from him.

                  HSSPF Fulda-Werra, Standort Arolsen (WK IX)

                  Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei (BdO) Kassel (Wehrkreis IX) (01/09/39-04/45):
                  generalmajor der Polizei August von Meyszner (01/09/39-07/09/40),
                  generalmajor der Polizei Karl Hoffmann (07/09/40-16/01/44),
                  generalmajor der Polizei Rudolf Müller (09/08/44-04/45).

                  This is what he mean about #3 I guess

                  The language problem sure is a issue here I'm afraid.

                  /André
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                  Last edited by NOR_collector; 10-27-2007, 11:31 AM.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by NOR_collector View Post
                          Here are some more pictures that I got from the seller.
                          The language problem sure is a issue here I'm afraid.

                          /André
                          Är han svensk? (Is he from Sweden?)

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Anders S View Post
                            Är han svensk? (Is he from Sweden?)


                            No he's from Germany

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by NOR_collector View Post
                              I hope this picture helps
                              There's a good sign there, but the skull is not right. If I were you, I think I'd wait for a better one.

                              The thing about this particular Mueller being the HSSPf Mueller sounds like salespitch codswallop to me.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Robin Lumsden View Post
                                There's a good sign there, but the skull is not right. If I were you, I think I'd wait for a better one.

                                The thing about this particular Mueller being the HSSPf Mueller sounds like salespitch codswallop to me.
                                I know that people that are selling fakes are telling all kind of stories to sell their items, but he also has this dogtag that goes with the ring:
                                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=248978

                                Ofcourse both can be fakes. I don't know.

                                /André

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