Weitze Himmler set

[HAF]

not millions he had a few of these at the SOS

so he made them in pakistan jet? ,or the are real ? that "urkunde' dont meet the "muster" rest is not my cup of tee

[Silberkreuz]

Hello.I like the set, I like the browning on the edges of the collar tabs, the acorns like good-with the different ageing and I have never ever seen an original box. ( not that I know what one looks like ) The only thing about them I was not sure about...if they were housed in the original box where is the rear paper tag? Not the end of the world but just wondering.
totally agree with Robert.. that cuff looks stunning..
never seen a different colour centre cord on the shoulder board, but this is for HH. Nice to see the oak leaf closely.
as for the price.. well 30,000 is No where near it. Just those tabs in a box £€$ Phew...
im sure we will be aware of the price today. Ball park 80-100k hope I’m wrong,,

regarding Johns comment .... not millions he had a few of these at the SOS
well, there’s more of these around...
best Colin

[dragnet]

Please call me stupid but ive been led to believe tab braid should have three strands where as the Himmler set only has two, so what been written on three strands is not always correct

Would anyone like to answer my question regarding the two strand braid please! Only out of curiosity folks

[Robert H]

2 strand cords was used sometimes, especially with early tabs.
I reviewed the collar tabs above to known references like also in Mark Bandos book and as well to the one white HH Delich tunic in the Beaver books. The tab set above doesn´t come near the quality of any original General rank collar tab. Board is also strange.

Some references below:

[dragnet]

2 strand cords was used sometimes, especially with earyl tabs.

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Thanks Rob

[AntiqueWW2]

You can't compare HH Tabs with any other SS General Tabs, that is just not working. Beside that he had several different Variants of his Tabs. There are a Pair with glass beads within the laurel leaves, then there is the pair sewn on his Summer Tunic with brass beads. And they are much worse in Quality then the one at Weitze's Site. Also Weitze's Set has a very good provenance as well. As i wrote early on, very rare nice and real Set. Including the Document.

[Robert H]

"You can't compare HH Tabs with any other SS General Tabs" that is not correct.
Look to the known references like on David´s white tunic tabs or the single known ones in some collections.
The leafs are same way like on other Gen. collar tabs, well nice implemented hand embroidery.
This set has more in common with known repro tabs, plain simple flat leafs.

The board is another fail with its cypher.

look at that single one:
http://themarshalsbaton.com/Framepage.htm

or that one for the basics:
https://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...ler-collar-tab

[AntiqueWW2]

[QUOTE=Robert H;n11637083]"You can't compare HH Tabs with any other SS General Tabs" that is not correct.
Look to the known references like on David´s white tunic tabs or the single known ones in some collections.
The leafs are same way like on other Gen. collar tabs, well nice implemented hand embroidery.
This set has more in common with known repro tabs, plain simple flat leafs.

Sure you can if you wish to do it...it just not really will tell you if they real or not....and there are many out there, a lot fakes some real. Look at some of his Tunics and period Pictures, you will quickly find out he has worn different Tabs many times on his Tunics.....he used several Tailors, 2 in Germany, one in Graz, Austria...and they made all different Tabs....so to just say i compare them with some Generals Tabs and then i know they not good...is at least for me...not good enough.

[Robert H]

Horrible photos with lack to show the quality of the details.
Believe in what you want, the fail of the tabs is common to repro tabs of higher quality.

[SiPo]

I can’t stand POR listings. Just state the price ffs

I agree.

[AntiqueWW2]

Jesus....you can't have always the same Opinion. In this Case i certainly not go along with yours. Himmler Tabs are not mass produced and you not ran into them every month. So compare them with something what is made frequent is to me not working. Also you need to know who made them, and that there are several different Styles of it what are real and done by total different Tailors. Beside that i know where these Set came out as well....what is to me more then enough. But anyway, not worth to bang Hats over any 85 years old Stuff.

[dragnet]

Jesus....you can't have always the same Opinion. In this Case i certainly not go along with yours. Himmler Tabs are not mass produced and you not ran into them every month. So compare them with something what is made frequent is to me not working. Also you need to know who made them, and that there are several different Styles of it what are real and done by total different Tailors. Beside that i know where these Set came out as well....what is to me more then enough. But anyway, not worth to bang Hats over any 85 years old Stuff.

Would you like to share your knowledge on the source of these tabs with forum members as you mentioned you know where they came from

[Silberkreuz]

That bottom HH was mine and that picture does not do it justice.. I’m trying to send a pic but can’t seem to get there with this new system.
the weitze tabs does not show the same quality. Perhaps the unterlage was not a high as my one as this looks bulky.

[DonC]

As with any high-end offering from a dealer, particularly one that has had, shall we say, issues in the past with put-together sets, I think a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted.

Don

[mevm36]

Here are a few pictures of an original, authenticated Himmler summer tunic. Take a look a be a judge of the tabs.....the collection offered by Weitz appears to be real in every respect. I also highly doubt that he is willing to risk his reputation by knowingly offering for sale such a magnificent collection if he knew it was a copy. He would then list it as such!

Marcus