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    KM medical board..need input..

    Hi All,

    I recently bought a nice lot of KM insignia, mostly medical. Please see the first picture.

    But the single Marineoberassistenzarzt board is somewhat puzzeling to me.

    It has double underlay; the bottum is black, and above this it is medical blue - kornblumenblau.

    I have search the Angolia books but cannot find any reference to this. Maybe I did not search the right place.

    The board clearly look like KM - and the Aesculap device is applied before the board has been sewn together. So all looks ligit to me. And I cannot see this as LW or WH. And I cannot imagine W-SS.


    Can anyone help out..?..

    Thanks,
    Hans Kristian
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    Board..no 1 and 2
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      #3
      Board, details..
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        #4
        ..??..no-one knows anything about this..?...

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          #5
          I think it's Luftwaffe medical reserve.

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            #6
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              #7
              Hi, IMO this one match with a medical supplementary officer. After 1934, a number of WWI officers were recalled, mostly in administrative positions, as supplementary o cers (Ergänzungso ziere), and were distinguished by a gold wire oval border around the sleeve career insignia and by a black underlay on the shoulder boards with all uniforms.
              Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

              Regards
              Eduardo


              Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

              sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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                #8
                Hi Eduardo and thanks for the comment.

                I am definitely not sure about this myself, I am aware of the black underlay for ergänzungsoffiziere, but did they also wear the double layer like in the army and LW..?..I cannot recall that they did that but maybe I am wrong.?.

                Anyway, this board looks a LOT like my SS-boards, and I would be inclined to believe it is SS. I posted it in the SS-section, but no official comments: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=911549

                Hans Kristian




                Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                Hi, IMO this one match with a medical supplementary officer. After 1934, a number of WWI officers were recalled, mostly in administrative positions, as supplementary o cers (Ergänzungso ziere), and were distinguished by a gold wire oval border around the sleeve career insignia and by a black underlay on the shoulder boards with all uniforms.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jmcm View Post
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                  This one now rests with me..

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                    #10
                    Hans Kristian, agree with you, not easy to know and I'm not really sure if these officers wore a black single backing or it was double, but IMO as they were not from the same career I would say that double, but really don't know.

                    By the style and construction of this one it matchs for me with KM, not with SS or LW.
                    Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

                    Regards
                    Eduardo


                    Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

                    sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                      Hans Kristian, agree with you, not easy to know and I'm not really sure if these officers wore a black single backing or it was double, but IMO as they were not from the same career I would say that double, but really don't know.

                      By the style and construction of this one it matchs for me with KM, not with SS or LW.
                      Eduardo, I agree with you on the style and construction - it does also look KM to me. Just very annoying that I cannot find any info about this in any reference...small "black holes"..

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                        #12
                        Regulations

                        Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                        Hi, IMO this one match with a medical supplementary officer. After 1934, a number of WWI officers were recalled, mostly in administrative positions, as supplementary o cers (Ergänzungso ziere), and were distinguished by a gold wire oval border around the sleeve career insignia and by a black underlay on the shoulder boards with all uniforms.
                        Hi,

                        I do have a frock coat and a coat for such a medical supplementary officer.
                        Both items does have the standard KM board, no black underlay.

                        I can check the name tag for the year....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by compressore View Post
                          Hi,

                          I do have a frock coat and a coat for such a medical supplementary officer.
                          Both items does have the standard KM board, no black underlay.

                          I can check the name tag for the year....
                          Hello,

                          That sounds just awesome.!!..would it be possible also to show the Ärmelabzeichen..?..we discussed that in a different thread, and I never saw one..

                          Thanks,
                          Hans Kristian

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                            #14
                            Anyway, I have here a KM board with completely black underlay - Marineassistenzarzt. But not 2 layers as the thread-starter...
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                              #15
                              messed up

                              Originally posted by compressore View Post
                              Hi,

                              I do have a frock coat and a coat for such a medical supplementary officer.
                              Both items does have the standard KM board, no black underlay.

                              I can check the name tag for the year....
                              1. I messed this up. I do have a reserve officer frock coat but not a supplementary officer. Sorry for this...just have not read carefully.

                              Originally posted by Hans Kristian View Post
                              Eduardo, I agree with you on the style and construction - it does also look KM to me. Just very annoying that I cannot find any info about this in any reference...small "black holes"..
                              Eduardo is very right. And here your info:

                              MDv260, Issue 1935, Instruction for cloth and dresses, enclosure 1, is describing exactly what Eduardo has said. All supplementary officers except admirals - have to wear shoulder boards with a black underlay, including those for white jacket.

                              As for the arm insignia, it is described as "surrounded by an endless rope"....as shown in the pics in the other thread.

                              Regards
                              Christian

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