KM Small Coffee Cup and Soup Bowl

[David Fettes]

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[glaser]

thanks to www and Stason, a beautifull groupingstatson KM china.jpg

[Stason]

Hello!



Black/Yellow ;Admiralitett.

Black/Sillver ;Beamte.

Red ;Höhere Offiziere.

Green ;Bootsmann.


Best,Marine.

Hello all! It was interesting to read your messages.

I collect long ago and I study a subject to the krigsmarena porcelain.


Till color of borders, there are three colors:

1. It is black / gold 1934-1939, it is black / yellow 1940-1942.
2. Red/brown
3. Green

It is black / silver such porcelain isn't present.

[Stason]

There are one 100% the proof.

It is the list of everything that it was necessary to take on the boat.

And except everything, porcelain is written down there:







The Green line: Is for Oberfeldwebel. - 100%

The Red(brown) line: Is for Offiziere. - 100%

The Black and Gold(yellow ) line: Is for Higher Offiziere. - documents which it is proved aren't present.

[Stason]

Photos of those years are the best proof:

[glaser]

David you owe Stason a drink
Thanks a lot for sharing the proof Stason, great to see collectors work together so solve any question, I enjoyed reading your comments, questions and finally the ultimate solution!

[Stason]

[km-spain]

Thank you Stason, for me is 100% clear now, great information, thanks for share it

Two questions:

- The dark strip for high rank officers is black or dark blue?, I have heard both

- If I understood you right, there were no china with silver-black for officials, right?

[Stason]

Thank you Stason, for me is 100% clear now, great information, thanks for share it

Two questions:

- The dark strip for high rank officers is black or dark blue?, I have heard both

- If I understood you right, there were no china with silver-black for officials, right?

1) black / gold 1934-1939, black / yellow 1940-1942.
2) black / silver border doesn't exist.

[David Fettes]

David you owe Stason a drink

So it would seem, well well.

Just one question, the list looks like it comes from a book, any chance of showing the front cover and the front inside page?

[Stason]

So it would seem, well well.

Just one question, the list looks like it comes from a book, any chance of showing the front cover and the front inside page?

Unfortunately the cover of the book isn't present. There are some more pages that it was still necessary to take aboard the boat.

[David Fettes]

Do you own the pages or are they from the internet?

Are any of the pages dated is really what I am after.

[Stason]

Do you own the pages or are they from the internet?

Are any of the pages dated is really what I am after.

There was a forum devoted to fleet five years ago. And there also there was a question that borders on porcelain mean.
Then at the collector on the krigsmarena, I showed the logbook in which it was written about porcelain.

I recommend to watch video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=DDxud4IUFNk

[David Fettes]

Very intersting film.
Part one shows the items with coloured bands, part two (also on youtube) shows the small coffee cups without any bands, which according to the list on post 28 they should not have had!

Also of interest, in part two, is the trick they play on the guy reading a book while on a hammock. The book in question is Anilin written by Karl Aloys Schenzinger, the same man who wrote Der Hitlerjunge Quex.

[Loke]

Stason, an absolutely astonishing documentation. This might keep a few trolls away from my KM porcelain collecting thread, too. And, your collection is amazing. It must be the finest KM porcelaine collection out there. Well collected!

...2) black / silver border doesn't exist.

However, black/ silver striped KPM-produced porcelain with Kriegsmarine stamping do exist. Unfortunately not in my collection, but I have actually held an item in my hands. Kriegsmarine beamte officers had various silver-colored items instead of the for Kriegsmarine See-offiziere normal gold-colored ones: Uniform buttons, cap insignia, dagger hangers, cloth insignia..., the possibility for this black/striped silver KPM-produced and M-marked piece deriving from KM Beamte is rather large, wouldn't you think?

Best regards, Loke