kreigsmarine uniform and insignia forum

[Leroy]

If a dedicated section is established, I also think Eduardo would be a great Moderator!

[John R.]

I have started a thread in the Moderator forum for this subject. We will keep you posted on what is decided there.

John

[coloprimus]

hello,
It would be great with that new sub-forum addition
Cheers, Pierre

[D.Trooper]

Yes i think we need a KM sub-forum.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Fully supported by me, even though at the moment I do not own any Kriegsmarine uniforms - hopefully this will change in the coming years.

[relichelmet]

Hello John Could you tell us how the discussion is going in the Moderator forum?

Best Regards Thorsteinn.

[John R.]

It is still in the discussion phase. I do not know if this is going to happen or not. Such a move will affect other subforums and classifications of those subforums--it all has to be considered.

John

[relichelmet]

Ok Thank you I will wait patiently for the outcome.


Best Regards Thorsteinn.

[JustinG]

To keep this question up and fresh in everybody's minds.
I am sending this one back to the top ^^^^^^

[John R.]

A decision has not been made, however, such a move has the unintended consequence of losing cross service knowledge. While it seems like a good idea, when you start to divide and subdivide forums, you run the risk that those collectors who do not collect KM in particular will no longer, or perhaps randomly, view that new subforum.

So if you have a question on KM insignia and uniforms, those collectors whose knowledge you might need are no longer watching that new subforum to make available their knowledge. They might have extensive knowledge of KM uniforms for example, but now collect Heer so unless for some reason they went to KM they would not see the thread. People only have so much time I think.

We saw this happen with badges but over the years we somewhat overcame this problem but not fully. In other words, knowledge of reverse setups on KM badges was made more difficult when those collectors of LW or Heer badges for examples were no longer directly involved in the new subforums when they were divided. So it applied to them also when KM badge collectors more or less stayed in their new subforum.

Again, not my call as it requires collective moderator consensus due to the changes this would affect to other subforums, but I am not in favor of such a new subforum since I think it weakens, not strengthens, what you are trying to achieve.

So while you might think a subforum of just KM uniform and insignia collectors would be a great idea for those so interested, you instantly lose the knowledge helpful from other collectors whose service interests are not KM.

John

[dcdefend]

km Forum

Well, if that's true, let's get rid of the SS and Luftwaffe forums, plus the cloth headgear forum. I'd hate to see the outcry if you attempted that.

I think it's clear that users of this site want a separate KM forum. Let's stop stalling and do it.

Respectfully,

John Ellis

[rhudspith]

I agree, like the Luft it should be the KM uniforms equipment and traditions forum.

How did the Luft one get started and how many supporters for that did it have compared with the KM?

[John R.]

Well, now we would need a moderator or two. Somebody that actually knows something about the subject would be helpful I think.

Rob or Jody, would either of you like to be Moderator of this new forum? You both are for the concept.

I think you are both qualified. Let us know here.

John

[John R.]

Well, if that's true, let's get rid of the SS and Luftwaffe forums, plus the cloth headgear forum. I'd hate to see the outcry if you attempted that.

I think it's clear that users of this site want a separate KM forum. Let's stop stalling and do it.

Respectfully,

John Ellis

When Moderators are considering the concept, it is not stalling John. Apparently you do not recognize the difference in terms. If Forum management decides for or against this it is up to them, not you.

I have given you an update in response to Justin's post. You will just have to wait I think for the decision to be made.

Just like I have to do and I have tried, without much success, to get a decision by the other Moderators since it affects cross subforums and how they are constructed. This also affects the title of the Luftwaffe "Flying Corps" subforum as I am not sure this ended up the way it was conceived in the first place. Then Heer uniforms and insignia. It is more complicated than what first meets the eye.

I have asked Jody and Rob, apparently big supporters of this idea to step forward as Moderators. If they do, I will change my position and agree with it not that what I have to say in the end is the deciding factor in this matter.

It is being discussed and there is no dark underlying reason why we are doing so except to make sure that the decision is not detrimental to the goal. I have stated I think that the split of badges was not a good idea but volunteered to be the KM warbadge moderator when the decision was made.

This is not a vote and few decisions on this forum have been made by vote. Check the number of votes for this against total membership and you will see why. The final decision is made by the owner. Not me and not you.

John

[marine]

Hi!


We do not need any new Km forum.All can used Atlantik-Pirat Kriegsmarine Forum.


Regards
Marine.