M43 TDB uniform

[Edward]

Pic shown in post #71 was discussed at length sometime back on the WAF Photos and Docs forum. Thread is probably still around if searched for.

[46IR]

Three different combat action badges (IAB, GAB, Fj)... I am smelling some BS. How is this even possible? What is the badge on the lower row, far viewer's right? It looks like a TENO badge.

The guys been discussed quite a few times

#edit edwards beaten me to it

[PaulR]

The guys been discussed quite a few times

#edit edwards beaten me to it

IT looks familiar to me too. Since you both remember it as well, was it debunked?

[germanmedals]

Bottom right seems like Gausieger badge to me

[Glenn McInnes]

Bottom right seems like Gauleiter badge to me

I was thinking maybe something like this.. http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...PETITION+BADGE









Glenn

[helmuthunter]

And im still sitting here, waiting for a education. So is everyone else that examined it hands on at the max. Well? In detail please? What is wrong with the TDB application? Yes nothing at all... Its good. Johnno.

[Daniel.S]

And im still sitting here, waiting for a education. So is everyone else that examined it hands on at the max. Well? In detail please? What is wrong with the TDB application? Yes nothing at all... Its good. Johnno.

You dont get it do you?

Without known wearer, no pictures of tunic in wear, family connection, there is absolutely no way to be 100% sure its original sewn no matter how the sewing is.

Its completely absurd to say in 2015 that a tunic has an original sewn TDB without any other information on it as sewing on insignia can be very well done.

[helmuthunter]

You dont get it do you?

Without known wearer, no pictures of tunic in wear, family connection, there is absolutely no way to be 100% sure its original sewn no matter how the sewing is.

Its completely absurd to say in 2015 that a tunic has an original sewn TDB without any other information on it as sewing on insignia can be very well done.

Thats only your opinion. I do get your opinion but not forced to accept it and cmon Daniel youve pushed it down my throat. If what you are saying is there is absolutely no difference in examining some thing that was sewn on yesterday and something sewn on 70 plus years ago you need to open your eyes and get a education. Its that simple. I agree that it can be very well done. I agree that you have no respect for my opinion. What i dont agree with is that this was handed around the max with many knowledgable collectors and no one has a negitive thing to say about the application. Except you. And you have NEVER had this tunic in hand. Period.

[Daniel.S]

are saying is there is absolutely no difference in examining some thing that was sewn on yesterday and something sewn on 70 plus years ago you need to open your eyes and get a education. What i dont agree with is that this was handed around the max with many knowledgable collectors and no one has a negitive thing to say about the application..

Im sure those collectors was never fooled by fakers or restorers and all they have are 100% untouched items, ofc they dont have anything bad to say about the application, but can you prove it is done during the war without ANY background history of the tunic? no you cant, noone can.

im not the one who should open my eyes.

Buts lets just agree to disagree....we can go on forever

Its avery nice original tunic with PERHAPS original sewn TDB.

Happy now?

[helmuthunter]

Im sure those collectors was never fooled by fakers or restorers and all they have are 100% untouched items, ofc they dont have anything bad to say about the application, but can you prove it is done during the war without ANY background history of the tunic? no you cant, noone can.

im not the one who should open my eyes.

Buts lets just agree to disagree....we can go on forever

Its avery nice original tunic with PERHAPS original sewn TDB.

Happy now?

Daniel i do agree part with what your trying to say. I just dont agree that every original TDB tunic still in existance with out ant provenence is bad. It all comes down to the application. If you would only buy a TBD tunic with provence i dont have a issue with that. I do believe that there are good TDB tunics without provenence out there that need a sharp eye to identify. This i believe is one of them. But thats my opinion. Live and let live. Peace brother indeed... If i needed provenence for my extensive and rock solid helmet collection id have none... Regards, Johnno.

[jacquesf]

Johnno, Daniel is not saying it is not an original period applied TDB, he is just saying it cannot be proven without provenance.J

[helmuthunter]

Johnno, Daniel is not saying it is not an original period applied TDB, he is just saying it cannot be proven without provenance.J

Thanks Jacquesf, maybe i have misunderstood him. Many original items dont have provenence. We all know that. It doesnt mean that something without provence isnt original. Thats what im saying. Regards, Johnno.

[jacquesf]

Thanks Jacquesf, maybe i have misunderstood him. Many original items dont have provenence. We all know that. It doesnt mean that something without provence isnt original. Thats what im saying. Regards, Johnno.

[Crusader17]

I saw the tunic at the Max. It is very well done, to the point that I would say it is very believable that it is period done. Would I bet my entire collection on that fact? Absolutely not without provenance.

I agree with what Daniel is saying. It is truly impossible to say.

It's a nice tunic, but you will never know for sure.

[Jeff V]

Without some amazing provenance tunics like this are a sum of the parts value IMO.