DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

[phild]

Chris,

Nice to know some of the TR collectors are ethical. I was loosing my faith in the immortal teachings of George Peterson.

"I am WWII Collecting, I started it"

GP- Iola Show 2006


In the end, these are not issue. This means only that, not that they are repros and not that they are real. Not more can be said from the "empirical" stance Phil brings up. It, like many other things, is based on faith or perhaps more often Tolstoy syndrome.

I still have nightmares and hear the screams of old tunics being shreaded and turned into tropical boards. I prefer issue pieces.

Good points above. If your source is beyond question then you can take whatever comfort you want from that. As to your straps in particular, I agree that I associate the piping with post war repros and I personally would expect to see some signs of wear to the fold end area (edge) and perhaps a least some slight fading to the top sides. Possible to have field made item that was never used but it seems to defeat the purpose!

[Mike Bollow]

In my opinion, they are too poorly done to be fakes INTENDED TO DECEIVE. These would only pass as the story suggests - as field made replacements, using what was available. The point that was made earlier about "buy them because YOU believe them, not to re-sell them" is the gospel truth.

If you are going to sell them (as Christoper is) then finding a price they will sell at is a challenge. The e-stand is in a recession right now anyway, so I wouldn't expect them to sell for a while no matter what the price.

Good luck to all parties, and Merry Christmas!

Mike

[Johnny R]

Mike, I mean this in a friendly manner but IMO The "too poorly done to be fakes INTENDED TO DECEIVE." will get you in a lot of trouble.

Not speaking of these boards but there are a lot of people who have made a lot of money making crappy "field-made" items depending on the above collector philosophy to peddle their wares.

These are much easier to make then things that look like issue pieces as are other "field made" items.

I am sure many of these fieldmade items are WWII, but for me, I would rather have something that I know is real by construction or by seamless origin etc.

I also do not think the Estand is in a recession, it is Christmas and most the items listed lately are of the charts as far a prices for what is being sold. there has been a lot of garbage on there lately (not your stuff of course ).

[Gary Wood]

"I am WWII Collecting, I started it"

GP- Iola Show 2006

Did he really say that!
cheers
Gary

[Johnny R]

Did he really say that!
cheers
Gary

Yes, that and more about his impact on the hobby, WWII German in particular. He is a nice guy and very informed but the ego thing is hard to deal with. I just walked away after hearing that.

Gary, can you please look at the eagle on the Chaplain thread, I have never seen one sewn to two backing like that.

[MilitaryCollect]

DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

More piping shots. The piping is not ribbed! The diameter of my boards' piping is much smaller than depicted in Glen's photos - guaranteed.

Christopher

[MilitaryCollect]

DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

To settle the issue of whether plant or animal fiber threads or oil based "rayon", I am willing to do the almost unthinkable: burn a piece.

I'll see if I can capture the test on photo for all the skeptics out there.

Christopher

[MilitaryCollect]

DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

Besides, the piping here is MUCH thinner than the fake stuff from the 80's. The modern fake piping was noticeably thicker than originals.

Christopher

[MilitaryCollect]

DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

I might be better off quoting Rodney Dangerfield: "Tough Crowd". "Take my wife, please".

The strans of thread comprising the piping appear to be VERY thin, long and interwoven. Not the thick, "corkscrew" type junk from the 80's.

Any takers on the "burn test"? I'd be willing to do it as a point of honor.

And, most importantly, YES John H. Amen Brother!

Christopher

[MilitaryCollect]

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[Gary Wood]

More piping shots. The piping is not ribbed! The diameter of my boards' piping is much smaller than depicted in Glen's photos - guaranteed.

Christopher

Christopher,
you cannot go off the photo posted by Glenn for size as both are taken at different resolutions,
the fake german piping just like period piping was not limited to one size only some was thicker than others,
below i have overlaid the piping on the fake ss strap on top of your piping


cheers
Gary

[MilitaryCollect]

DAK field made shoulder boards up for discussion

HI Gary,

I haven't gone off anyone's photo. Just posted more pix.

That's what we in law call "'potentially' damning evidence". Your photo suggests that the piping is the same size, etc. I think the only FAIR test is to your post is a genuine side by side shot, for exact scale and an EXACT comparison. That way nobody can claim that the photos were manipulated in any way.

Let's see how the camera interprets the same shot. I'll send one board to to you or you may send one to me? I ask for this leniency because your comparison does not appear to work with any other photo of my boards' piping.

WE can agree that this outcome will be dispositive. Fair enough?

Christopher

[Gary Wood]

HI Gary,

I haven't gone off anyone's photo.

The diameter of my boards' piping is much smaller than depicted in Glen's photos - guaranteed.

Christopher

this what you said