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DAK field made boards up for discussion
Hello,
Someone has requested that I post these boards here. They were acquired several years ago from a friend in Germany who obtained them directly from a vet's family. They've been posted on the forum previously and the consensus was field or POW made. A famous DAK author, historian and collector from ... had prevously viewed them and was of the opinion that they are 100% authentic DAK, but he believed they were POW made. The have not previosuly been called to question by anyone.
They are for sale offered here: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=1#post2364209
Merry Christmas,
ChristopherLast edited by MilitaryCollect; 12-25-2007, 05:54 PM.Comment
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Do you have a link to the thread where they were discussed before?
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Why did you delete all you comments on the old thread?
We talked about these in the last thread, IMO unless these are solidly provienced, all you can really say is they appear to be made from period materials and that other examples like these are known to have been made right?
As a side note what is up with the James 2:14 thing? Are you going to have NZ Mark and I smited or turned into pillars of salt?
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DAK field made shoulder boards up
Hi John,
I deleted my unfavorable comments about someone else because I am ashamed of my part in that interaction. Had nothing to do with the boards.
The "James" quote speaks of Faith and Deeds. It's a personal montra for this month. Nothing in the way of retribution intended. In fact, that's precisely why I deleted my ill-thought comments. And I do apologize for my behavior. Someone else's bad behavior does not justify my own. I try pretty hard to remember that, but sometimes it brings up the worst in me. And that Gentlemen is the basis of my religious belief - to rectify my own thoughts and behaviors.
Regarding the boards, no "story" to tell other than a friend in Germany bought them from the vet's family. I have absolute confidence in him. I've had the set for a few years now and they were my very first set of DAK shoulderboards. And that is why I offered them to someone else with reference to further collecting. Someone in .... was extremely helpful to me when I got started collecting DAK and I hoped to return that favor - which he asked me to do someday.
They look great and my gut feeling is that they are the real McCoy. Wouldn't sell them if I had ANY doubt otherwise. And I'm selling them because I now own more pairs than I have tunics to display with. Either you believe or you don't.
ChristopherLast edited by MilitaryCollect; 12-25-2007, 05:54 PM.Comment
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Chris, IMO there is nothing more to be said than what you stated above. When I have obtained items that I am VERY SURE of the source and origin (not very often but it has and does happen) then there is no one that will convince me (short of empirhical evidence) that the item is not original.Originally posted by DAKcollector1 View Post
I have a set of field made NCO straps that I got on a blood stained (and shrapnel holed) mountian tunic from the family in the Alpine region of Germany about 25 years ago. The straps had been on the tunic for a long time then and there is no reason to suspect that they were made after the war....matching collar tress and wear tell me that they were set up and perhaps made when the soldier was promoted to NCO. They would not likely be accepted as originals as stand alone straps and maybe not even with the tunic...but it does not matter too me. People can believe what they think and I will believe what I know.Comment
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I have never seen straps with ribbed cotton piping that I thought were original,an attempt to mimic the weave of rayon piping IMO.
Straps are too easy to reproduce.
Here is a comparison to a fake strap.
Glenn"A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"Comment
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I agree from the photo's the piping does look like the fake cotton piping that apeared on German fakes in the 80's,Sorry.Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
I am not discounting or questioning your story but vet sourced does not make them real i have seen many vets in Germany who have added items themselves or were given items later to represent what they had that were fake.
cheers
GaryLast edited by Gary Wood; 12-26-2007, 06:26 AM.Comment
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good points made.....
This is a little bit like with the Lappland shields and Marine front clasps.....
Easy to buy but hard to sell.......like everything that is fieldmade........
My own opinion and rule about this kind of items is that if I´m going to buy them, I´m going to keep them and never sell them, take them with me in my grave..........so that solves the selling problem.
If they are period fieldmade or constructed afterwards with original material is hard to say.......maybe they even are a pair of fakes???? I´m no expert, just my thoughts......Comment
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Chris,
Nice to know some of the TR collectors are ethical. I was loosing my faith in the immortal teachings of George Peterson.
"I am WWII Collecting, I started it"
GP- Iola Show 2006
In the end, these are not issue. This means only that, not that they are repros and not that they are real. Not more can be said from the "empirical" stance Phil brings up. It, like many other things, is based on faith or perhaps more often Tolstoy syndrome.
I still have nightmares and hear the screams of old tunics being shreaded and turned into tropical boards. I prefer issue pieces.Comment
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