luft AK tunic

[John Hodgin]

Scott, your reproduction Luft. tropical tunic is one of the more obvious copies. The eagle is a one looker as a reproduction. In addition, the Germans (to my knowledge) never used buttons like those, regardless of color. The buttons look more like WW II US buttons to me.

I am here to tell everyone interested that there are copies of Luft. tropical tunics, ******252;berfallhosen, and tropical shirts that are near perfect in every way. Willi and I see them at the Max and SOS. The tropical boot copies (low and tall) are good, but not so perfect yet.

Stephan, thank you for the additional photos! I regret to say that the more I see of this tunic and eagle the less I like the eagle. I cannot say for certain the tunic is bad, nor can I say it is authentic. Edit: Like my two very wise and good friends Mr. Davis and Mr. Singer, I think the tunic COULD be authentic. However, I differ with them about the eagle, I think it is a reproduction. I am not too keen on the tunic's cuff buttons either. I regret to say I would not feel comfortable with this tunic in my collection!

Like Jos, I hope we can find some confirmation on this breast eagle. But as you say, over twenty looks and I still do not like it.

Regards,
John

[John Hodgin]

PS. No one ever raised the eagle "issue" that bothers me most. This another reason I think the eagle was at least added this tunic post war. On the interior view of the eagle's stitching, at the base of the swas., the pocket flap stitching is pulled down. This is not normal, and I doubt period.

[Mike Davis]

Scott, your reproduction Luft. tropical tunic is one of the more obvious copies. The eagle is a one looker as a reproduction. In addition, the Germans (to my knowledge) never used buttons like those, regardless of color. The buttons look more like WW II US buttons to me.

I am here to tell everyone interested that there are copies of Luft. tropical tunics, überfallhosen, and tropical shirts that are near perfect in every way. Willi and I see them at the Max and SOS. The tropical boot copies (low and tall) are good, but not so perfect yet.

Stephan, thank you for the additional photos! I regret to say that the more I see of this tunic and eagle the less I like the eagle. I cannot say for certain the tunic is bad, nor can I say it is authentic. Edit: Like my two very wise and good friends Mr. Davis and Mr. Singer, I think the tunic COULD be authentic. However, I differ with them about the eagle, I think it is a reproduction. I am not too keen on the tunic's cuff buttons either. I regret to say I would not feel comfortable with this tunic in my collection!

Like Jos, I hope we can find some confirmation on this breast eagle. But as you say, over twenty looks and I still do not like it.

Regards,
John

Well, I'll have to defer to you, Jos and Willi on this one! Perhaps if I do a search I can learn more about the 'problems' with this bird. Very interesting thread. I'd like to see some images of the newly-made LW trop. items that you observed at the SOS.

[Scott A. Hess]

Hello....well..my bad tunic came from a person named Clive Watkins out of Luxemborg..I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he didnt know it was bad..but..one never knows.

[John Hodgin]

Well, I'll have to defer to you, Jos and Willi on this one! Perhaps if I do a search I can learn more about the 'problems' with this bird. Very interesting thread. I'd like to see some images of the newly-made LW trop. items that you observed at the SOS.

Hi Mike,

If you do a search here you may find the paper tag photo that Raoul took of a fake Luft. trop. tunic at the SOS. The tag is a poor copy, but the tunic it's on is a good copy. Raoul, do you still have that photo on your machine? No photos of the tunic, the dealer did not like us even shooting the tag. I just do not bother to archive the bad stuff, perhaps I should. We can do some walking together at the next SOS if you like.
Best,
John

[John Hodgin]

Cut pocket.

[John Hodgin]

Triangle.

[John Hodgin]

Sorry, I cannot make these larger.

[Jos L C]

PS. No one ever raised the eagle "issue" that bothers me most. This another reason I think the eagle was at least added this tunic post war. On the interior view of the eagle's stitching, at the base of the swas., the pocket flap stitching is pulled down. This is not normal, and I doubt period.

Yes,how come ?
I saw this too,but I thought maybe the sewing machine "pushed" in that shape,like a wave rolling ashore...
It's a rather thick area there and "war" machines shouldn't have trouble to stitch there,a "modern" lighter machine could've trouble there though..
Most of the time lighter machines start "rolling and pushing " the fabric or /and even quit the job..

jos.

[Willi Z.]

The shaping of the right wing is incorrect. But, extremely poor details to the eagle are my biggest concerns. Here are a few original variations. The top two are unissued, next is one that has been renoved from a tunic and the botton one is one that has been removed, trimmed and was glued to an album. Yet the details of the bottom two, which clearly have seen more wear than the one in question, are sharper than the one in question.

[Willi Z.]

A few others.

[Willi Z.]

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[Willi Z.]

And a $15 repro which IMO exhibits more accurate details than the one in question.

[John Hodgin]

Yes,how come ?
I saw this too,but I thought maybe the sewing machine "pushed" in that shape,like a wave rolling ashore...
It's a rather thick area there and "war" machines shouldn't have trouble to stitch there,a "modern" lighter machine could've trouble there though..
Most of the time lighter machines start "rolling and pushing " the fabric or /and even quit the job..

jos.

Yes Jos, IMO that sewing is not 64 + years old.

[Scott A. Hess]

And a $15 repro which IMO exhibits more accurate details than the one in question.

I think this is the repro on my repro tunic..Scott