HJ Bannfahne

[GREG E.]

Flag Sold !

Yes - it sure did!

- GREG E.

Did it sell?

[oldflagswanted]

Hj-99-bf sos $$$ ???

Yes - it sure did!
- GREG E.

Hello GE:
What did HJ-99-BF sell for? How many are known?

PS/ In my 40 plus years of collecting flags I've only seen
~6 flying eagle type HJ/DJ Bannfahnen - 3 HJ and 3 DJ, all of
them being of RZM spec embroidery. Four of the flags are
NSDAP Ausland Organizations, likely captured at the OA-HQ
in Stuttgart at the end of WW2. See my Bender Military
Advisor magazine (Winter 1994/95 Vol-6, #1 issue) article
for more about these rare flags, including some nice close
up photos of the Guatemala DJ Bannfahnen in my collection.
Do feel free to post confirmation photos (*). OFW
(below) From WAF thread t=463860, photo by Hawesj(*)

Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) new list.
1. HJ-BF #236, framed. From WAF thread t=463860, photo by Hawesj(*)

[GREG E.]

Hjb-99

Hello OFW.

Out of courtesy to my buyer, I do not wish to divulge pricing specifics on a public forum. I tried to contact you via PM, but I was unsuccessful. Since you are a serious collector/researcher of this type of material and I do not wish to be rude by ignoring your question, I will pass you the information in a way that "only you" will understand it: about 95% of the price of HJB-434.

Best -

GREG E.

[QUOTE=oldflagswanted;5174536]Hello GE: What did HJ-99-BF sell for?

[oldflagswanted]

prices & survived examples ???

Hello OFW.
...tried to contact you via PM, but I was unsuccessful.
...[HJB-99 sold for] about 95% of the price of HJB-434.
Best -
GREG E.

GE:
My WAF PM's are turned off, as I prefer direct email.
Likewise, I got the info elsewhere, but your posted
reply is still much appreciated. Thanks.
OFW.
Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) new list.
1. HJ-BF #236, framed. From WAF thread t=463860, photo by Hawesj(*)
2. HJ-BF #434, JH(*) via another collector.
All are invited to add more examples, or point out corrections too
Note: HJ/DJ-BF list soon to transfer to "wmtf" t=427262, with SS list.
For a likewise interesting German DDR unit flag list see WAF t=89741.

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HJ/DJ-BF list continued...

HJ/DJ-BF list, 16 Mar 2012
OFW.
Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) list.
HJ-BF photo count = 3 so far...
1. HJ-BF #236, framed one sided, from WAF thread t=463860, photo
... by Hawesj(*),(location) Duisburg-Nord/ Ruhr-Niederrhein/ West
2. HJ-BF #434, JH(*) via another collector. (location) ???
3. HJ-BF #99, from WAF t=215502 , GE(*), (location) Ruhr-Ennepe/
... Westfalen/ West
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All are invited to add more examples, or point out corrections too
Note: HJ/DJ-BF list soon to transfer to "wmtf" t=427262, with SS list.
For a likewise interesting German DDR unit flag list see WAF t=89741.
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(below) List example #3, from WAF thread t=215502, photo posted by GE(*)

[Oberbootsmann]

Hello. There has just popped up another nice HJ Bann Flag at the German MFF (photos shown in posting #22).

http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/sh...=324259&page=5

Regards

[oldflagswanted]

HJ bann flag ???

...another nice HJ Bann Flag at the German MFF
(photos shown in posting #22). t=324259
Regards

What is the bann number? Unable to view the
link photos, could someone post them here?
OFW

[oldflagswanted]

update ...

Hello. There has just popped up another nice HJ Bann
Flag at the German MFF (photos shown in posting #22).
Regards

Hello Oberbootsmann:
Turns out that the HJ-BF posted on the cited t=324259
MFF thread is the same Bann-99 flag sold at the 2012 SOS.
OFW

[oldflagswanted]

HJ/DJ-BF list, 17 Feb 2018
OFW.
Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) list.
HJ-BF photo count = 4 so far...
1. HJ-BF #236, framed one sided, from WAF thread t=463860, photo
... by Hawesj(*),(location) Duisburg-Nord/ Ruhr-Niederrhein/ West
2. HJ-BF #434, JH(*) via another collector. (location) ???
3. HJ-BF #99, from WAF t=215502 , GE(*), (location) Ruhr-Ennepe/
... Westfalen/ West
4. HJ-BF #274, from WAF t=949930, M35(*), (location) ???
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All are invited to add more examples, or point out corrections too
Note: For a list of German DDR unit flag see on WAF t=89741.
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...........................OFW.............................


(below) This HJ-BF list as cited (*) surviving example #4.

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List addition ...

HJ/DJ-BF list, 18 Feb 2018
OFW.
Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) list.
HJ-BF photo count = 5 so far...
1. HJ-BF #236, framed one sided, from WAF thread t=463860, photo
... by Hawesj(*),(location) Duisburg-Nord/ Ruhr-Niederrhein/ West
2. HJ-BF #434, JH(*) via another collector. (location) ???
3. HJ-BF #99, from WAF t=215502 , GE(*), (location) Ruhr-Ennepe/
... Westfalen/ West
4. HJ-BF #274, from WAF t=949930, M35(*), (location) ???
5. HJ-BF #341, from WAF t=949930, joecool(*), (location) ???
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All are invited to add more examples, or point out corrections too
Note: For a list of German DDR unit flag see on WAF t=89741.
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...........................OFW.............................


(below) This HJ-BF list as cited (*) surviving example #5.

[oldflagswanted]

more surviving HJ-BF photo confirmations.

More survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen,
so very kindly provided by Wim Saris.
OFW
(below) Saris commentary & with permission
some photos from his superb book "Ringkragen
und Brustschilder im Dritten Reich", is as follows ...
"First the HJ Bann-flag from 426, existing since August 1, 1937
for district 29, Süd-Württemberg with its headquarters at Horb.

Second, close-ups from a very damaged flag with two ribbons:
545 exsited since June 16, 1938 in disctrict 30, being Südost
Steiermark with its headquarters at Graz. The oe27 ribbon
stands for the old district Stiermark-Ost with its headquarters
at Graz. As such it existed August 1, 1933. This flag was
sacrified at Postdam January 24, 1934 at the Garnisonskirche
at Postdam.

The 426 flag was once in the possession of my friend Ph.Gillain,
he also owned a Jungbann-flag (see second image); the oe27
once was in the possession of mr. Wolfgang Meier from Austria.
... The HJ and DJ flags are very heavy and are double sided. I
held both during a visit at my friend. I pity the lads carrying these
flags on a long pole. It must have been awaful for them to walk
around with it. But as always there were two seconds (Begleiter).
Best regards,
wim"

[oldflagswanted]

about DJ Bann flags ???

I'm currently working on the DJ Bann flag
portion of the WAF list, and will post them
when the WAF list is expanded to those flags.
OFW

... (below) Saris commentary & with permission
some photos from his superb book "Ringkragen
und Brustschilder im Dritten Reich", is as follows ...
" ... in the possession of my friend Ph.Gillain,
he also owned a Jungbann-flag (see second image) ...
The ribbon with 916 was sewn over another ribbon,
which I do explain with the caption. ...
Best regards,
wim"

[oldflagswanted]

More ...

... from W.P.B.R. Saris on HJ-BF.
Thanks !!!
OFW

[Joe B]

Bannfahne for Bann 188 , Hamburg Germany .

[oldflagswanted]

List update ...

HJ-BF list, 11 June 2019
Survived WW2 HJ/DJ Bannfahnen, confirmed by photo (*) list.
HJ-BF photo count = 8 so far...
1. HJ-BF #236, framed one sided, from WAF thread t=463860, photo
... by Hawesj(*),(location) Duisburg-Nord/ Ruhr-Niederrhein/ West
2. HJ-BF #434, JH(*) via another collector. (location) ???
3. HJ-BF #99, from WAF t=215502 , GE(*), (location) Ruhr-Ennepe/
... Westfalen/ West
4. HJ-BF #274, from WAF t=949930, M35(*), (location) ???
5. HJ-BF #341, from WAF t=949930, joecool(*), (location) ???
6. HJ-BF #656 & oe27, WS(*), (location) Südost Steiermark, HQ at Graz.
7. HJ-BF #426, WS(*), (location) district 29, Süd-Württemberg, Horb HQ.
8. HJ-BF #188, joecool(*), (location) Hamburg Germany.
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All are invited to add more examples, or point out corrections too