Best Sub-Machine gun of WWII?

[Adrian Stevenson]

PPSh41

[kiwicollector]

I voted for the PPSh-41 as it was the best of the choices given. But whould have to say that the PPS-43 would have to be the best SMG to come out of WWII. I base this on the fact that it is the most copied design of the war, and coping is the most sincere form of flattery.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Kiwicollector, the PPS is a beautiful peice of design. I was very impressed with it and considering the history of the gun and the circumstances of it's initial design and construction in the Siege of Leningrad, I think that it makes it a special weapon.

I have a Chinese made copy of it, the Type 54. We use these for Battle re-enactment here in the UK. We have had them converted to 9mm blank firing.

Cheers, Ade.

[Michael Page]

Hail to the PPS 43

Adrian--I think you mean yours is a copy of the PPS 43. I voted for the Beretta due to the choices listed but I agree that the 43 was definitely the best sub gun...a refined 41.

I didn't know the Chicoms had a version. Is there a semi auto version available?

Hi Kiwicollector, the PPS is a beautiful peice of design. I was very impressed with it and considering the history of the gun and the circumstances of it's initial design and construction in the Siege of Leningrad, I think that it makes it a special weapon.

I have a Chinese made copy of it, the Type 54. We use these for Battle re-enactment here in the UK. We have had them converted to 9mm blank firing.

Cheers, Ade.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Mike, yes the PPS 43, sometimes known as the PPS 42 as well. The Chinese copy is the same as the original, full auto only.

The PPS 43 is really a completely different gun to the PPSh41. The thing which really suprised me is the mags are not interchangable I think this is the guns biggest fault.


Cheers, Ade.

[kiwicollector]

Hi Adrian,

Here's a picture of my Russian 1945 dated PPS-43:


As you can see it's seen better days and is missing the bolt, but I'll get that fixed (one day). Can you get parts for these in the UK?

Cheers

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Kiwicollector, sadly parts for these are not obtainable in the UK, unless you are a Section 5 firearms dealer.

A Soviet made PPS is quite a rare bird

Cheers, Ade.

[gew98]

pps43..yuk !

I voted for the PPSh-41 as it was the best of the choices given. But whould have to say that the PPS-43 would have to be the best SMG to come out of WWII. I base this on the fact that it is the most copied design of the war, and coping is the most sincere form of flattery.

I have to say ...have you ever handled a PPS43 and shot one.They are rubbish !. Nowhere near as contrallable nor reliable as the PPSh41. The "43" is junk !.

[Sergey]

A Soviet made PPS is quite a rare bird

In Russia it is not so rare, we still have some sources of this sub-machine guns. So in military shops you can get deactivated gun by resonable prices in about 200$

[bnz. 42]

In Russia it is not so rare.. ..in military shops you can get deactivated gun by resonable prices in about 200$

Sergey, how much a deactivated MP40 would be in Russia/Moscow?(in good condition)

[Sergey]

Sergey, how much a deactivated MP40 would be in Russia/Moscow?(in good condition)

I is a problem. It is very difficult to find german weapons in Russia. I would like to have in my collection MP-38/40 and Mauser 98K but all deactiveted items which I have seen were in ugly condition (ground dug) I heared only that IZMASH start make deactivation of Mauser 98K on the next week I want check this information. It is about german weapon, but with Russian and with some another deactiveted weapon we haven't any problems.
Degtyarev machine gun DP of 1927
sub-machine gun PPsh 41
sub-machine gun PPsh-43
sub-machine gun PPS-43
Machine gun Maxim of 1910
Mosin-Nagan carbine 1891/30 of 1944
Mosin-Nagan rifle 1891/30
Hand gun Tokarev of 1933 (TT)
Hand gun Colt 1911

[kiwicollector]

Sergey, can you get parts for them?

I'm looking for a new bolt for my PPS-43 and so far have only found them in the US where it's too hard to get export permits (most American sellers can't be bothered exporting).

Cheers

[Sergey]

Sergey, can you get parts for them?

I'm looking for a new bolt for my PPS-43 and so far have only found them in the US where it's too hard to get export permits (most American sellers can't be bothered exporting).

Cheers

I think it will be difficult to buy any part of PPS. I think in this case it will be easier to buy whole deactivated sub-machine gun, but how I told it is price will be not high in about 200$ so you can get every part of this item.

[Gary Cain]

Having owned at least one of all of them, I think the papsha is the best. I don't own one anymore because it was butt ugly. I still have two Thompsons and two MP40's and a STEN(a piece of crap by the way!) but if I were using it for combat give me the PPsh41 Reliable, accurate, 71 round drum!!, and you can use it as a club in hand to hand combat, what more could you ask for? The Germans had a saying about them as well "if you get hit by one, you will be hit by ten".

Gary

Decided to post a new poll, since the last poll didn't have enough weapons to chose from. I started new polls now on: best pistol, best machine gun, best infantry rifle, and best sub-machine gun.

This one is for best sub-machine gun. Sorry there are only 10 choices. You can only pick one, so choose wisely!

Matt

[Nebfer]

i like the hungairen SMG