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    #16
    It looks to me that all the fittings are midperiod. Apparently the original scabbard leather has been replaced with this here aligator skin. Moroccan pebble grain leather should have been used.

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      #17
      Rare??

      Originally posted by WW2-Collector View Post
      Stamped mark is correct on the Klass 1st model. Scabbard leather does not match handle either recovered or the scabbard was married to the dagger
      Nice daggers Ron & ww2-Coll

      Thanks for your opinions!
      I am happy the dagger & scabbard was no fake, not loosing so much money.....
      Just have to live whith the scabbard

      When i search the web, I dont find many Klaas, LW 1st.
      And the ones that i find are expensive, and not mint.

      Are they rare?

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        #18
        WW2-collector: Your dagger has a nickel silver fitted hilt and a scabbard with steel fittings and aluminum chain. I have seen this combination on several occasions in the past. I feel that it was highly probable that there was a transition period where the early production parts were used up. The edict that was issued to discontinue the use of nickel silver only affected the manufacturing of new parts but did not affect the assembly of existing stock until it was exhausted.

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          #19
          Originally posted by cogwheel View Post
          It looks to me that all the fittings are midperiod. Apparently the original scabbard leather has been replaced with this here aligator skin. Moroccan pebble grain leather should have been used.
          Aligator skin?
          Good eye there if its right
          Dagger and scabbard more worth in aligator skin?

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            #20
            Spencer: Your dagger is not a fake. But whoever replaced the scabbard leather made a poor choice.

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              #21
              Originally posted by cogwheel View Post
              Spencer: Your dagger is not a fake. But whoever replaced the scabbard leather made a poor choice.
              Thanks everybody for your opinions!
              Too bad with the scabbard leather, but it is what it is..

              Now I can sleep good at night

              /spencer

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                #22
                Luftwaffe dagger 2 type?

                For me loooks good but I'm just learning about daggers.
                I start post with similar one, but I think second pattern...
                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...78#post5731578

                KR
                Last edited by Oscar; 02-07-2013, 07:48 AM. Reason: mistake in posts

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                  #23
                  For clarification, this leather is not real aligator skin but is regular leather with aligator pattern imparted.

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                    #24
                    I used to own an unmarked 1st luft with this type of scabbard leather. It was obtained directly from the vet's family and it was untouched. Wittmann also had one for sale recently with this type of covering and in his description he said it was ostrich skin.
                    I think the scabbard leather of the dagger posted by spencer88 is period original.
                    Last edited by dutchdrummer; 02-08-2013, 09:56 PM. Reason: grammar

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by dutchdrummer View Post
                      I used to own an unmarked 1st luft with this type of scabbard leather. It was obtained directly from the vet's family and it was untouched. Wittmann also had one for sale recently with this type of covering and in his description he said it was ostrich skin.
                      I think the scabbard leather of the dagger posted by spencer88 is period original.

                      I too have seen this type leather on other 1st lufts in other collections and at MAX and SOS shows in the past.

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