Sa Presentation dagger by Carl Eduard

[Billy G]

It's got rarity, condition & was presented from a known high level personality. Just wow.

[Frogprince]

Wags, History along with a beautifully inscribed blade ....... very impressive!! FP

[Hakan81]

Holy smokes Serge
Congrats to a real killer blade
Cheers, Hakan

[ValhallaMilitaria]

What a find!

[ivbaust]

Nice score, wags

Here´s the wording of the inscription plus translation:

Dem Truppführer Rudolf Kratochwill
für treue Mitarbeit in den Kampfjahren um die nationalsozialistische Revolution 1928 - 1934
Carl Eduard
Herzog von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha
SA-Gruppenführer

Translation:

To Squad Leader Rudolf Kratochwill
for loyal collaboration in the fighting years of the national socialistic revolution 1928 - 1934
Carl Eduard
Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
SA Group Leader

[Serge M.]

Dear Friends and colleagues in the hobby, Thank You for the Kind words of support and satisfaction. A group like you guys makes me want to share the best goodies with you. However at times there seems like there's someone who is not pleased.
I was going to post some more info this morning until I got a message from my friend Frederick Stephens. Frederick has known about this dagger along with another Carl Eduard dagger I have in my collection for some time now.

Frederick has expressed his opinions to me about this and other Carl Eduard presentation daggers, and basically he doesn't like them. We have communicated privately on this matter.
I have openly accepted Frederick's challenge to post his opinion.
Hopefully we can all learn more here and a good healthy controlled debate without any malice which IMO is good for the hobby.

'Truth does not fear investigation'.

As Fred knows my position and I his....I can almost feel him loading up his magazine from half way around the world. Fire away Fred !

Serge

[JR.]

A totally righteous, beautiful, and period piece

[DR DOLCH]

"Truth does not fear investigation,unless guilty"I can't wait for FJS the devils advocate.Does he like anything?Since no one has brought it up,whats with the I on the crossguard? That would take some serious explaining to me.

[JR.]

"whats with the I on the crossguard? That would take some serious explaining to me."

[JR.]

I'm so zeroed in on the inscription the group I district mark burned a hole through my forehead.

[DR DOLCH]

I'm so zeroed in on the inscription the group I district mark burned a hole through my forehead.

It's the hole in your wallet you need to look out for.

[JR.]

Those guards are definitely EP with the horseshoe in the circle casters, but the district mark does twist my laundry a bit. I do accept the GAU marked SS chains that are seen, but this is the first on what would normally be a SS district mark, placed on an SA crossguard.

[DR DOLCH]

Those guards are definitely EP with the horseshoe in the circle casters, but the district mark does twist my laundry a bit. I do accept the GAU marked SS chains that are seen, but this is the first on what would normally be a SS district mark, placed on an SA crossguard.

Maybe it's on there for the same reason as the chained daggers made from leftover Rohm parts.I would expect to see more of them,but it's a start.

[F. J. Stephens]

Carl Eduard Dagger

Dear Friends and colleagues in the hobby, Thank You for the Kind words of support and satisfaction. A group like you guys makes me want to share the best goodies with you. However at times there seems like there's someone who is not pleased.
I was going to post some more info this morning until I got a message from my friend Frederick Stephens. Frederick has known about this dagger along with another Carl Eduard dagger I have in my collection for some time now.

Frederick has expressed his opinions to me about this and other Carl Eduard presentation daggers, and basically he doesn't like them. We have communicated privately on this matter.
I have openly accepted Frederick's challenge to post his opinion.
Hopefully we can all learn more here and a good healthy controlled debate without any malice which IMO is good for the hobby.

'Truth does not fear investigation'.

As Fred knows my position and I his....I can almost feel him loading up his magazine from half way around the world. Fire away Fred !

Serge

Well Serge (and other gentlemen watching this thread), I think that my private comment to you about you being "mischevious" in your presentation of this item in the light of our previous dicussions has in fact being borne out - so let us put all of our cards on the table - after all, if you have now decided to "name and shame me pubicly" for the guidance that I gave you two (or more) years ago - and which I did in the honest belief that I was helping you - you do not leave me many choices. You have made your call, and I will reply.....

Dr. Dolch: I note your comment -
"Truth does not fear investigation,unless guilty"I can't wait for FJS the devils advocate.Does he like anything?Since no one has brought it up,whats with the I on the crossguard? That would take some serious explaining to me. "

Dr. Dolch: I am an easy target to hit - because I am always prepared to stand up and face my critics - and in your view: being the "Devil's Advocate". Should I take this as some kind of back-handed compliment? Or would you prefer to see what I really have to say, before you make a premature judgement?

Of course, while we are waiting for all this, should we not allow Serge to perform (in his words) "I was going to post some more info this morning until I got a message................." It is over to you, Serge, you are calling the shots.

Frederick J. Stephens

[JR.]

Fred........... I thought that you were going to debate the dagger not pass the torch back. Serge presented the photos................ and guys were very excited for him. What gives, Sir ?