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    #31
    Yes Chris, thanks! Great research and clue!

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      #32
      Thanks, guys--I was hoping to get some more input as to actual photos of these hats in wear, but photographic evidence is very limited.


      If the "squished cross" was authorized (& worn), I have yet to see any evidence.


      Bottom line is that these are one of the rarest of the regular-production hats, and one of the easiest to swap out insignia on, so if one is ever offered to you, I would be sure to get many opinions before buying.
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        #33
        Here is the current-made Janke KM Chappy from Extra Klasse--note they use the squished cross with black thread for the cockade.
        Given that Janke has been making these things since the 1970s, there has to be 1000s of these wreaths in circulation:
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          #34
          Very informative Chris thank you very much!!!!

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            #35
            Guys, thanks for all the kind comments....
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              #36
              Here is proof that no cross was worn on the visor cap at times (just like with WH chappies):
              (credit to Larry)
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                #37
                empty

                The top of the wreath in the photo almost looks like it forms an "empty space" cross. Too bad the image isn't in sharp focus.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by stonemint View Post
                  Here is the current-made Janke KM Chappy from Extra Klasse--note they use the squished cross with black thread for the cockade.
                  Given that Janke has been making these things since the 1970s, there has to be 1000s of these wreaths in circulation:

                  Note....Michael makes 0 insignia. Just the caps alone.
                  ALL insignia is added after by third party

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by pauke View Post
                    The top of the wreath in the photo almost looks like it forms an "empty space" cross. Too bad the image isn't in sharp focus.

                    Actually, almost all KM wreaths have a shape that leaves a space which can nicely fit a squished cross--therein lies the rub.
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                      #40
                      Compressed wreath with the cross extending over the band:
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                        #41
                        Hello collector, can anyone help me find one of the cross for a war pastor?

                        I pay very well and reliably!

                        Please help me =)

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                          #42
                          Another fake:
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                            #43
                            & another
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                              #44
                              Wreath from a fake OKK Erel on Ebay right now:
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