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    #61
    GJ piping varies by maker, and the color even varies by the same maker. They did not dye their own fabric--they bought from different suppliers.
    Age also plays a role.

    These are all 100% original GJ visors--note that the colors vary:
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      #62
      some more:
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        #63
        Anyway, IMHO, the Otto Dittmann is a GJ cap.
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          #64
          But why alu kokarde an oak leaves NOT on mine ?
          Last edited by Kennetk; 03-18-2014, 02:59 PM.

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            #65
            Enough already. If you don't want the damn hat, just send it back and carry on with your life. J

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              #66
              Look this,bought in Reichtwrstofen fair few days ago. This is administration cap. Now late here and I can send fotos only with flash. If you want tomorrow with normal light.
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                #67
                More photos
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                  #68
                  Well said!
                  Ron
                  Originally posted by jacquesf View Post
                  Enough already. If you don't want the damn hat, just send it back and carry on with your life. J

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                    #69
                    No is okay

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by jacquesf View Post
                      Enough already. If you don't want the damn hat, just send it back and carry on with your life. J
                      I agree.

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                        #71
                        I have contacted the seller. and apologized. hope that's okay.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Kennetk View Post
                          I have contacted the seller. and apologized. hope that's okay.
                          Thank you so much.
                          All is ok!!!!!!

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                            #73
                            Glad it worked out.

                            Shown before, but this is proof positive that insignia was moved wartime to accommodate Traditions badges:
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by stonemint View Post
                              Glad it worked out.
                              Shown before, but this is proof positive that insignia was moved wartime to accommodate Traditions badges:
                              Great photo. This poor zero had no clue that he had just destroyed the respectability and resale value of his cap into perpetuity.

                              1) We know that it happened. Probably more often than we think.

                              2) We know that the green farbes were used interchangeably by the green farbe-wearing masses. Probably more often than we think.

                              3) We know that the GJ units had admin personnel just like all other units. So whether they transferred in during the war, wearing their admin-piped caps, or were there from the start, they were authorized to wear the edelweiss.

                              4) We know that other branches such as Artillery and even Panzer units that were attached to GJ units wore the edelweiss, either officially or unofficially.

                              5) We know, from the law of averages, that the subject cap was probably embellished post-war. But it is a very nice cap, and all components appear to be original, so it is what it is. It may not command the value of a "textbook" piece, but it is still very collectable IMO.

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                                #75
                                I have contacted helmut Weitze. and they say it could easily be GJ. but the color looks like an Admin. but as they say was used at some point the same color. and manufacturing was unusual.

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