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    #31
    Originally posted by Gene View Post
    Change 'Berlago Berlin' to 'Berolina Berlin'
    I am not sure Berlago and Berolina are one and the same.

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      #32
      Perhaps this thread would be more helpful if the makers were separated by the branch of service for which they manufactured.

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        #33
        M40 tropical cap makers

        I agree. I was going to put this list online elsewhere soon but you might have as well have it now. I have seen photos of convincingly authentic (army) M40 tropical caps with all of these stamps, on this forum, the AK forum, the War Relics forum, on dealer websites (mostly Virtual Grenadier) and in print (Borg & Twiname, Figueroa, Fisher and Kurtz). Some of you have been kind enough to send me clearer/ additional photos of them. Ignore the letters in square brackets — they are my codes.

        I should probably highlight a couple of issues of potential controversy within it. First, it doesn't include Ritter or Clemens Wagner yet. These remain in my uncertain list (below). Some of you would have them in the list now. Second, I am not yet certain Vogl is a manufacturer's stamp, primarily because the name occurs on utterly different caps, but also because of the identification of 0/0678/5015s, with which Vogl is associated in one cap, with Ritter. Third, Berlago/ Lago. The caps I've seen with these stamps are quite different but the stamps in them are very similar. Fourth, Schellenberg. I have an idea that some of you doubt the authenticity of this cap (it was shown in Fisher & Lock and further photos were posted on The Saleroom). The available photos aren't that good but donkihotis7 has posted a very close, but unnamed analogue for it, which looks OK to me. Finally, the list list is based wholly on caps already in the public domain and probably not complete. I only learned of the name Kurtze & Storkmann when 90th Light posted it a couple of weeks back and the correct reading of Resolut is of course also new to me.

        Ritter is currently under discussion in another thread.

        Cheers
        Mike

        Manufacturers’ names in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
        Gebrüder Alm [ALM]
        Erich Bergmann, Ebersdorf [BERG]
        Berlago, Berlin [BERL]
        Bayer Mützenfabrik, Munich [BAY]
        Greiling & Co, Felina [GRI]
        Carl Halfar, Berlin [HAL]
        Mützen-Häussler, Berlin [HÄU]
        Aurel Huber, Lindenberg [HUB]
        Bruno Kern Mützenfabrik, Lunzenau (Muldo) [KER B]
        Ernst Kern Mützenfabrik, Lunzenau (Muldo) [KER E]
        Karl Kuback Mützen-fabrik, Mainz – Kastel [LUB]
        Kurtze & Storkmann, Berlin [KUR]
        Landes Lief Genossenschaft... Mitteldeutschland [LMD]
        Lago, Berlin [LAG]
        Robert Lubstein, Berlin [LUB]
        Mayser, Lindenberg [MAY]
        Karl Neubert, Erfurt, Mützenfabrik [NEU]
        […] W. Obenha[…], Karlsruhe [OBE]
        Ottmar Reich, Lindenberg [OTT]
        Resolut [RES]
        Mützen-Fabrik Dretzen, Rheydt [MFD]
        Emil Schebeler, Berlin [SCHEB]
        August Schellenberg, Bromberg [SCHEL]
        Schlesische Mützenfabrik, Frankenstein [SMF]
        Jacob Sperb, Regensburg [SPE]
        Willy Sprengpfeil Mützenfabrik, Hamburg [SPR]
        Gustav Thomas, Breslau [THO]
        Alfred Valet Mützenfabrik, Stuttgart - Bad Canstatt [VAL]
        Johann Vogl, Eggenfelden [VOG] (possibly not a period stamp)
        Vorwerk & Sohn, Wuppertal-Barmen [VOR]
        F. Weissbach, Glauchau [WEI]
        Wolber & Pfaff, Hausach [WOL]

        Numbers in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
        0/0250/0906 [HAL]
        0/0384/0066
        0/0496/0340
        0/0520/0017
        0/0669/0036 or 8
        0/0678/5015 [VOG/RIT]
        0/0721/0074 [OBE]
        0/0735/0022
        0/0843/0008
        0/0843/0012 [MAY]
        0/0850/0387 [BAY]
        0/1316/0014
        1/0250/2487

        Possibles
        Franz Ritter & Söhne, Dresden [PIE]. Name something like this occurs in plausible looking 1942 dated caps
        Herbert [Str]aub, Annaberg[...unreadable] [STR].
        G. Teufel & Sohn, Tuttlingen [TEU]. Two 1942-dated caps, both messed about with, and with odd eyelets for the date (one recently on eBay)
        Clemens Wagner [WAG]. A blue soutached cap represented online by single photo of a possibly authentic cap is claimed to be a Wagner. The stamp is not shown.

        Numbers in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
        0/0250/0906 [HAL]
        0/0384/0066
        0/0496/0340
        0/0520/0017
        0/0669/0036 or 8
        0/0678/5015 [VOG/RIT]
        0/0721/0074 [OBE]
        0/0735/0022
        0/0843/0008
        0/0843/0012 [MAY]
        0/0850/0387 [BAY]
        0/1316/0014
        1/0250/2487

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          #34
          Correction
          Karl Neubert. On reflection, this is an inference. I haven't seen the stamp, only a cap said to be by an Erfurt maker (in Kurtz p.142), the insignia application of which matches that described to me for Neubert. Possibly therefore this maker too should be in my list of possibles. Probably I got the details of the name off one of the lists previously posted. I'd be most interested to see details of one of these caps if any one has one. Likewise my other possibles.
          Mike

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            #35
            Have a couple more to add to the list, both made the later models in '43.

            Mlchael Mayerhofer

            Herbert Straube

            Also have confirmed Almi made Herr M40's, have seen a nice used one. An Almi was dissed here by some but it's a good cap imo. An advanced DAK collector has confirmed this and we will have some photos soon...

            Can anyone else add another ?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Lodsworth View Post
              Herbert [Str]aub, Annaberg[...unreadable] [STR]
              Looks like Annaberg in Erzgebirge
              WAF LIFE COACH

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                #37
                Originally posted by Gene View Post
                Looks like Annaberg in Erzgebirge
                According to our friend Billbert

                the "Town and Kreis are in Saxony".

                post #12 from this thread...
                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=960983

                cheers
                Tim

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by OSS View Post
                  I am not sure Berlago and Berolina are one and the same.
                  Berolina is G.A. Hoffmann, Berlin. Berlago would be a consortium of Berlin tailors within the LAGO system.

                  Robt.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RGD51 View Post
                    Berolina is G.A. Hoffmann, Berlin. Berlago would be a consortium of Berlin tailors within the LAGO system.

                    Robt.
                    Thanks Robt

                    Here is a link to the above mentioned post #35, an Almi M40, this one with the rbn# 0/2009/0004

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=962818



                    .
                    Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 05-27-2018, 08:01 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Lodsworth View Post
                      I agree. I was going to put this list online elsewhere soon but you might have as well have it now. I have seen photos of convincingly authentic (army) M40 tropical caps with all of these stamps, on this forum, the AK forum, the War Relics forum, on dealer websites (mostly Virtual Grenadier) and in print (Borg & Twiname, Figueroa, Fisher and Kurtz). Some of you have been kind enough to send me clearer/ additional photos of them. Ignore the letters in square brackets — they are my codes.

                      I should probably highlight a couple of issues of potential controversy within it. First, it doesn't include Ritter or Clemens Wagner yet. These remain in my uncertain list (below). Some of you would have them in the list now. Second, I am not yet certain Vogl is a manufacturer's stamp, primarily because the name occurs on utterly different caps, but also because of the identification of 0/0678/5015s, with which Vogl is associated in one cap, with Ritter. Third, Berlago/ Lago. The caps I've seen with these stamps are quite different but the stamps in them are very similar. Fourth, Schellenberg. I have an idea that some of you doubt the authenticity of this cap (it was shown in Fisher & Lock and further photos were posted on The Saleroom). The available photos aren't that good but donkihotis7 has posted a very close, but unnamed analogue for it, which looks OK to me. Finally, the list list is based wholly on caps already in the public domain and probably not complete. I only learned of the name Kurtze & Storkmann when 90th Light posted it a couple of weeks back and the correct reading of Resolut is of course also new to me.

                      Ritter is currently under discussion in another thread.

                      Cheers
                      Mike

                      Manufacturers’ names in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
                      Gebrüder Alm [ALM]
                      Erich Bergmann, Ebersdorf [BERG]
                      Berlago, Berlin [BERL]
                      Bayer Mützenfabrik, Munich [BAY]
                      Greiling & Co, Felina [GRI]
                      Carl Halfar, Berlin [HAL]
                      Mützen-Häussler, Berlin [HÄU]
                      Aurel Huber, Lindenberg [HUB]
                      Bruno Kern Mützenfabrik, Lunzenau (Muldo) [KER B]
                      Ernst Kern Mützenfabrik, Lunzenau (Muldo) [KER E]
                      Karl Kuback Mützen-fabrik, Mainz – Kastel [LUB]
                      Kurtze & Storkmann, Berlin [KUR]
                      Landes Lief Genossenschaft... Mitteldeutschland [LMD]
                      Lago, Berlin [LAG]
                      Robert Lubstein, Berlin [LUB]
                      Mayser, Lindenberg [MAY]
                      Karl Neubert, Erfurt, Mützenfabrik [NEU]
                      […] W. Obenha[…], Karlsruhe [OBE]
                      Ottmar Reich, Lindenberg [OTT]
                      Resolut [RES]
                      Mützen-Fabrik Dretzen, Rheydt [MFD]
                      Emil Schebeler, Berlin [SCHEB]
                      August Schellenberg, Bromberg [SCHEL]
                      Schlesische Mützenfabrik, Frankenstein [SMF]
                      Jacob Sperb, Regensburg [SPE]
                      Willy Sprengpfeil Mützenfabrik, Hamburg [SPR]
                      Gustav Thomas, Breslau [THO]
                      Alfred Valet Mützenfabrik, Stuttgart - Bad Canstatt [VAL]
                      Johann Vogl, Eggenfelden [VOG] (possibly not a period stamp)
                      Vorwerk & Sohn, Wuppertal-Barmen [VOR]
                      F. Weissbach, Glauchau [WEI]
                      Wolber & Pfaff, Hausach [WOL]

                      Numbers in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
                      0/0250/0906 [HAL]
                      0/0384/0066
                      0/0496/0340
                      0/0520/0017
                      0/0669/0036 or 8
                      0/0678/5015 [VOG/RIT]
                      0/0721/0074 [OBE]
                      0/0735/0022
                      0/0843/0008
                      0/0843/0012 [MAY]
                      0/0850/0387 [BAY]
                      0/1316/0014
                      1/0250/2487

                      Possibles
                      Franz Ritter & Söhne, Dresden [PIE]. Name something like this occurs in plausible looking 1942 dated caps
                      Herbert [Str]aub, Annaberg[...unreadable] [STR].
                      G. Teufel & Sohn, Tuttlingen [TEU]. Two 1942-dated caps, both messed about with, and with odd eyelets for the date (one recently on eBay)
                      Clemens Wagner [WAG]. A blue soutached cap represented online by single photo of a possibly authentic cap is claimed to be a Wagner. The stamp is not shown.

                      Numbers in apparently authentic M40 tropical caps
                      0/0250/0906 [HAL]
                      0/0384/0066
                      0/0496/0340
                      0/0520/0017
                      0/0669/0036 or 8
                      0/0678/5015 [VOG/RIT]
                      0/0721/0074 [OBE]
                      0/0735/0022
                      0/0843/0008
                      0/0843/0012 [MAY]
                      0/0850/0387 [BAY]
                      0/1316/0014
                      1/0250/2487
                      The Karlsruhe maker is: H.u.W. Obenhack , Karlsruhe
                      Last edited by Dion; 06-03-2018, 08:39 AM.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Dion View Post
                        The Karlsruhe maker is: H.u.W. Obenhack , Karlsruhe
                        Thanks for adding another maker to the thread. Here is a link to a nice Obenhack , Karlsruhe M40...

                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=963707

                        Anyone who can add another tropical cap maker, please feel free to do so ?

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                          #42
                          Georg Grote, Hamburg. New to me.
                          https://www.germanmilitaria.com/heer...s/H076465.html

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                            #43
                            Years Back at the MAX or SOS I Absolutely saw an ORIGINAL GEORG TEUFEL TUTTLINGEN M40 non soutached example..I think it was 42 dated..no RBN
                            Billbert

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