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    #46
    Bob...

    I certainly agree with you that an item that has been priced well below "market value" deserves a very close look. And if this cap had been priced at two to three thousand dollars, we might well indeed want to give it truly exceptional scrutiny. But I myself do not see the price on this cap as being "bargain basement". To the contrary, I think it is within reason, but not at all "cheap". My point was that, with all other things being "thumbs up", the price alone was not a reason to inject doubt, particularly where the price is by no menas "a giveaway".

    Oddly, I have heard collectors say about some rarity, or read coments to the effect of, "An original one would be worth $ XXXXX , but I would never buy one because they are so rare and I would be scared to spend the money on it". You can insert whatever you want for the item: An example of The German Order; a cased Feldherrenhalle dagger; and so on. So then are those items REALLY worth that if the people putting the values on them really have no intention of actually ever buying such an item?

    I think that the subject of "value" versus "rarity" is well reflected on this same dealer's site. He has for sale a beautiful tunic of a General in the RAD. It has not sold yet at $4600. He also has a very nice named Heer General tunic that appears to have sold quickly for $6,500. Now, I've seen quite a few Heer General's tunics over the years, and even owned a nice, named General's waffenrock. But I could count on two fingers the number of RAD General's tunics that I have seen. They are much rarer than Heer tunics of the same rank, but despite the importance of the RAD in the Third Reich, they just do not carry the same collector demand. So this very rare tunic remains unspoken for on the same site from which a Heer General officer's tunic flew off, for $2,000 more in its price.

    I think that this has become a very difficult hobby, and many collectors are, justifiably, worried about how and when and where they spend their hard-earned money. But I think that our approach to historical items, for the benefit of all collectors, should be an educated, rational, and reasoned examination and analysis. To do otherwise is, I think, a disservice to collectors.

    Again, Bob, I know exactly what you meant in your post, with which I agree, and just wanted to clarify mine.

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      #47
      As always, coloured piped caps always bring out some interesting opinions.
      For me, the price of an item has never, never been an influence in regards to the authenticity of the piece. If it were, 99.9% of my collection woud be deemed fake purely on that basis because I didn't pay through the nose for them. I have no choice actualy, I'm not a rich man. In any case, what's expensive and beyond their means for one person is pocket change for another, it's all relative.
      This cap cost a lot of money to me but at this precise moment in time, it was within my means and I think I know a good cap when I see one by now. And, after all, it's just a cap, judge it in the same way you would any another cap. The fact that it's a piped SS cap shouldn't make anyone more nervous than judging a common or garden heer visor for example, they're all made the same way after all. German tailors didn't hide secret puzzles inside them knowing that years later they would be so valuable!

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        #48
        Originally posted by Martin Stiles View Post
        Well done Ben you got yourself a nice cap
        Martin
        Thanks Martin, your advice, as always, is greatly appreciated.

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          #49
          Ben,

          It's a shame that you sold the SS-KZ Lager EM/NCO visor that you once had - both of these caps on display side-by-side together would have been quite magnificent!

          Brad

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