E-bay WH Inf Visors

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I noticed 2 different visors on ebay.de (sold a week apart) which looked remarkably similar in shape, wool, and insignia--but they were sold by different sellers. As with typical e-bay pix, they are not as clear as I would have liked, and they lacked good under the hood shots.
One is a Balke, the other an HPC. I am sort of making up my mind as I go, as I want to examine side by side.

To start off, here is the HPC:

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The cockade is a "3-D", not rare, but not uncommon, either (and highly desirable, at least by me).
Note that this hat had a bullion eagle (now removed) with the thread traces noticeably in place:

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side view:

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Interior:

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Close-up of label--why a Frischluft with an embroidered wreath?

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About as close to an under the hood as we are going to get--the hat lacks the perforation pattern to the SB that I am familiar with....

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OK, next is the Balcke--look at the similar 3-d cockade; the quality of the wool; and the threads from the missing bullion adler:

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3-D cockade (yes, it does differ from the HPC in details):

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Close-up of label--why a Frischluft with an embroidered wreath?

And the wrong sweatband I do believe. This one would be real easy. Just ask the seller for an under the hood. HPC had the most distinctive insides of any maker.

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Side:

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Balcke logo (post-war ones are generally colored):

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At least on this one we get an under-hood shot:

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Guys, lets have your opinions. I have one, but I'll post it at the end.
If you have visors by either of these makers, please post them.

[Kreager]

I definitely agree about the wreath and sweatband on the HPC one. Would really like to see "under the hood" to see if in fact it does have the 5 hole Frischluft system. I wouldn't be suprised to see this one is a Frankenstein cap.
As for the second one, I believe this one is a Frankenstein cap as well. You have a worn logo screened on to the SS but behind the liner looks as if the cap was never worn (looks new). Very interesting how we have a hand applied (crudely done) wreath, that looks to be done after the fact but no eagle. I believe this was done to make it look like it was denazified, yea right!

I don't like either one, personally. Can't wait to hear what others say.

[BenVK]

The HPC has got the wrong sweatband for sure. It should have the strip of fabric between the band and the frame to act as a cushion, similar to Pekuros.