I spent a lot of time and effort on honing my knowledge of visors and have for the last 16 or 17 years. I take the time to study every stitch of every visor that crosses my hands. I take the time to focus on the history and evolution of a few period makers. In one extreme case I even dismantled a visor that was beyond redemption to see how that maker constructed his caps. I do research on the patents of those makers. I try and use dated visors and patents to construct a timeline for those makers. My work ethic in this hobby I will put up against anyone’s. To me every detail of every visor is important. What type of lining did they use, what type of sweatband, how did they attach their linings and sweatbands, what type of peak stiffener did they use. How many of you can say the same? Maybe one or two?
Because of this detailed study I can see red flags in visors that others do not. “Hey that is the wrong type of sweatband” or “that maker never used that type of stitching”. Look at the Erel SS thread for example. I spent a whole day building up a bulletproof case on a visor that was obvious to me (and a few others). When I say something does not look right I go into full detail why. I post pics pointing out the flaws, I post pics for comparison, and I post detailed info regarding the maker. Unlike others on the forum who just spout off they don’t like something and never say why I go to the extreme to post legitimate reasons why something does not look right to me.
Am I right all the time? Hell no, no one is. Do I back up my comments with all the info I have available? You bet you’re a$$.
It seams on a daily basis I am having to defend myself. I have no problem with members who challenge something I post by saying “why”. I have no problem with members with opposing opinions. Sometimes those threads prove to be the most informative. Sometimes those threads get me to rethink my position on things. I am not bull headed, I have changed my mind on a lot of views I have had over the years because better info has surfaced or someone make a valid point.
What I do have a problem with are members who cast insults like the one thrown at me tonight on a thread. I made a comment regarding color piped visors and when they were made. The comment was I did not know what I was talking about and I must not have a good reference of books. Excuse me? The issue of whether or not color piped visors were produced post 1940 has be debated ever since collecting started. It is been debated to no end on the forums with no clear answer. When I asked this member what book did I miss that confirmed they were made post 1940 his story changed. Now it was a vet told him he bought one in 1943. Well if this is true how does that make me a fool spewing non-truths? How does this conclusively prove anything? Since this member does not contribute much in visor discussions I doubt he is too knowledgeable in the subject. For that mater he probably has a bone to pick with me because I pointed out a visor he owns is bad. Since he took a jab at me yesterday for no reason I am sure this is the case.
If you disagree with something I say feel free to let me know. But for god sakes back it up with fact, your personal experiences what you seen 40 or 50 years ago before fakes, something. Don’t just take personal jabs because you don’t like me (like I care).
I put a lot of time and effort into helping other collectors. Sharing info with other collectors. I get about 6 emails a day from people asking for my opinions on visors. (boy someone must think I know something
) and I take the time to answer every single one. I couldn’t tell you how many times I stopped someone from buying a known fake or messed with visor and this is the thanks I get.
I think I am going to take a little vacation from the forum. Start focusing on my own collection and myself. I am sure some won’t miss me. Now they can post their doggy visors and get a “that a boy”. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my rant.
Nick
Because of this detailed study I can see red flags in visors that others do not. “Hey that is the wrong type of sweatband” or “that maker never used that type of stitching”. Look at the Erel SS thread for example. I spent a whole day building up a bulletproof case on a visor that was obvious to me (and a few others). When I say something does not look right I go into full detail why. I post pics pointing out the flaws, I post pics for comparison, and I post detailed info regarding the maker. Unlike others on the forum who just spout off they don’t like something and never say why I go to the extreme to post legitimate reasons why something does not look right to me.
Am I right all the time? Hell no, no one is. Do I back up my comments with all the info I have available? You bet you’re a$$.
It seams on a daily basis I am having to defend myself. I have no problem with members who challenge something I post by saying “why”. I have no problem with members with opposing opinions. Sometimes those threads prove to be the most informative. Sometimes those threads get me to rethink my position on things. I am not bull headed, I have changed my mind on a lot of views I have had over the years because better info has surfaced or someone make a valid point.
What I do have a problem with are members who cast insults like the one thrown at me tonight on a thread. I made a comment regarding color piped visors and when they were made. The comment was I did not know what I was talking about and I must not have a good reference of books. Excuse me? The issue of whether or not color piped visors were produced post 1940 has be debated ever since collecting started. It is been debated to no end on the forums with no clear answer. When I asked this member what book did I miss that confirmed they were made post 1940 his story changed. Now it was a vet told him he bought one in 1943. Well if this is true how does that make me a fool spewing non-truths? How does this conclusively prove anything? Since this member does not contribute much in visor discussions I doubt he is too knowledgeable in the subject. For that mater he probably has a bone to pick with me because I pointed out a visor he owns is bad. Since he took a jab at me yesterday for no reason I am sure this is the case.
If you disagree with something I say feel free to let me know. But for god sakes back it up with fact, your personal experiences what you seen 40 or 50 years ago before fakes, something. Don’t just take personal jabs because you don’t like me (like I care).
I put a lot of time and effort into helping other collectors. Sharing info with other collectors. I get about 6 emails a day from people asking for my opinions on visors. (boy someone must think I know something
) and I take the time to answer every single one. I couldn’t tell you how many times I stopped someone from buying a known fake or messed with visor and this is the thanks I get. I think I am going to take a little vacation from the forum. Start focusing on my own collection and myself. I am sure some won’t miss me. Now they can post their doggy visors and get a “that a boy”. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my rant.
Nick
keep up the good work..even when you make an occaisional mistake being dedicated makes you a great asset.
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