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**brus** · 05-31-2016, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Ric Ferrari View Post

Since the beginning ADR has shown his total lack of knowledge about SS buckles, but it seems the same about Heer buckles.

By the above article is pictured an example of late war Heer buckle by RODO. All true buckles collectors know this production do not show a bent catch like on SS, and for such reason ADR labels it "A post-war reproduction Robert Dold buckle"

Ric

Yes, he is a little bit confused about RODO buckles production.
The SS RODO is good and in fact it's completely different from others appearing in Thayer article, the Heer RODO is also good and well known but he defined it as "post war fake"

Regards
brus

**Ric Ferrari** · 05-31-2016, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by brus View Post

Yes, he is a little bit confused about RODO buckles production.
The SS RODO is good and in fact it's completely different from others appearing in Thayer article, the Heer RODO is also good and well known but he defined it as "post war fake"

Regards
brus

So ADR's rough classification about RODO production appears obvious :

all SS buckles RODO marked with bent catch are original pre-1945 (no matter if by different dies/box shape/colours) and all buckles RODO marked without bent catch are post war repro , included a well known period Heer buckle

Ric

**Stangell** · 05-31-2016, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by Ric Ferrari View Post

Anyone offering opinions on militaria originality by forums or magazines has a great responsability (my bolding) since a lot of money change hands based on such opinions.

Our loved hobby is just a business for many people, a good reason to burn any bullsh*t pusher, no matter if in good faith or not.

Ric

Exactly! And that is why people posting "Fake IMO" and "Fake" when posters are asking for originality on items shall not and never be taken seriously.

Tell why an item is considered to be a fake or keep quiet.

**Ric Ferrari** · 05-31-2016, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Stangell View Post

Exactly! And that is why people posting "Fake IMO" and "Fake" when posters are asking for originality on items shall not and never be taken seriously.

Tell why an item is considered to be a fake or keep quiet.

Do not forget reliable Forums became a precious tool for fakers as well.

So any public info must be generic to do not furtherly help rotten people.

After all dies comparison side by side always provide a good help and tell the story, if someone is actually interested in inproving his knowledge (and not his dirty job).

Ric

**Jean Pierre Redeuilh** · 06-02-2016, 07:45 AM

I do not know what is in the gogo's agenda or what kind of new acid he could have found in N.Carolina. But looks like he involved to make readers believing he is the only true God and everybody else, of course including forums, is Satan. Do we need to be concern about this kind of ignorance any more? Do we really need to be worry for our house when someone put his own on fire in another city? I do not believe so. Let's be amused instead. At least now I am amused. He lost the war but he still doesn't know it...

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**J. Wraith** · 06-02-2016, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Jean Pierre Redeuilh View Post

I do not know what is in the gogo's agenda or what kind of new acid he could have found in N.Carolina. But looks like he involved to make readers believing he is the only true God and everybody else, of course including forums, is Satan. Do we need to be concern about this kind of ignorance any more? Do we really need to be worry for our house when someone put his own on fire in another city? I do not believe so. Let's be amused instead. At least now I am amused. He lost the war but he still doesn't know it...

Funny thing is that he is not really wrong with these jabs, their all true. All the collector needs to figure out is how to apply his criteria and where to apply it and its essentially how the hobby operates. But your giving him much more attention than he deserves and he is clearly getting the better of you.

This is not a dumb guy and he is playing you and he is playing a small percentage of the hobby but a growing percentage of base collector as this type of material gets more and more prevalent on the web, your like the Sunday Newspaper giving the guy free advertising in the culture section. He spits on crap in the market much of which is good and sells his venom to retards that would otherwise be legitimate collectors if they were not getting humped left and right by dealers. Then he continues to spew it like an authority trashing people and items and sells the fakes to the people he is skimming off the top.

Your not very bright, your just playing right into this guys game and he will eat you for breakfast. The web is like the baggage train, everyone has their baggage loaded up down the rails for 10 years. New collectors hit these big dealer sites or if they bother to read these forums they go for the drama. Its poison and navigating it is becoming such a problem for a base collector that a Royster becomes a land shark for the uneducated consumer. By the time the consumer figures it out he will be dead we can hope anyway, but he is a scammer and you are helping him. Good job!!

His agenda by the way as I told you before and he clarified it himself in a response to one of his alter ego's is to destroy the hobby and do to belt buckles what he claims to have done to other areas of collecting. You would be better served if you actually read his material before you threw on your bat cape and jumped in a phone booth.

**DonC** · 06-02-2016, 01:07 PM

Well, I gotta say - this is not quite as entertaining as a Craig Gottlieb thread as far as the mud-slinging goes, but it is damned close...

Don

**Scott C.** · 06-02-2016, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post

Your not very bright...

**DonC** · 06-02-2016, 02:04 PM

Like I said...

Don

**Jean Pierre Redeuilh** · 06-02-2016, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post

Your not very bright, .

I know, I'm French. Can't get it all, sorry about that.

**J. Wraith** · 06-02-2016, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Jean Pierre Redeuilh View Post

I know, I'm French. Can't get it all, sorry about that.

Might garner you an exemption as a hardship case, but if someone wants to make a project of you don't say I did not try and warn you. I prefer torturimg the spelling and grammer nazis myself, but cant as who would save the world without them.

**Jean Pierre Redeuilh** · 06-02-2016, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post

Might garner you an exemption as a hardship case, but if someone wants to make a project of you don't say I did not try and warn you. I prefer torturimg the spelling and grammer nazis myself, but cant as who would save the world without them.

This is fine, Thanks, I was warned over and over. You are not the only one warning me about the other Guignol. But the problem is that I do not fear the other Guignol. I do not give a damn about the other Guignol. What Guignol does is bad, what Guignol does is for himself. What I do is right, what I do is for the others, What I do does not bring me anything. And you know why I do it? Because nobody else did raise a finger when that dumb article was out. Because it makes 16 years I am helping others to avoid gogos like Guignol. Because looks like a bunch are sh@t@ng in their pants everytime they hear the name of Guignol. But I ain't. He is Guignol, not God, not even a skunk. Smell like one but not even one. Sure it is free commercial, but did you realize it is a two ways commercial? Maybe if more people did in the past what I am doing Guignol would no longer have any stick by now.

So, I already read your opinion, please respect mine. If you do not want to read anything anymore, please unsubscibe from the thread. Right now Guignol does not take any of my time, but answering this kind of reply does. But I will continue to bring this thread up, and up, and up again until I feel enough people had been warn from buying a fake V chest or reading contents at Guignol's house.
Let him play with me for what I care.

**blinky** · 06-03-2016, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Jean Pierre Redeuilh View Post

This is fine, Thanks, I was warned over and over. You are not the only one warning me about the other Guignol. But the problem is that I do not fear the other Guignol. I do not give a damn about the other Guignol. What Guignol does is bad, what Guignol does is for himself. What I do is right, what I do is for the others, What I do does not bring me anything. And you know why I do it? Because nobody else did raise a finger when that dumb article was out. Because it makes 16 years I am helping others to avoid gogos like Guignol. Because looks like a bunch are sh@t@ng in their pants everytime they hear the name of Guignol. But I ain't. He is Guignol, not God, not even a skunk. Smell like one but not even one. Sure it is free commercial, but did you realize it is a two ways commercial? Maybe if more people did in the past what I am doing Guignol would no longer have any stick by now.

So, I already read your opinion, please respect mine. If you do not want to read anything anymore, please unsubscibe from the thread. Right now Guignol does not take any of my time, but answering this kind of reply does. But I will continue to bring this thread up, and up, and up again until I feel enough people had been warn from buying a fake V chest or reading contents at Guignol's house.
Let him play with me for what I care.

**Manalishi** · 06-03-2016, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post

I prefer torturimg the spelling and grammer nazis myself, but cant as who would save the world without them.

So you're purposefully misspelling words? OK, just so we're clear on that. BTW, I think you're spot on with your earlier post.

I don't know what's worse - that ADR, in full 'ignorance is bliss' mode thinks the Thayer RODOs are real. Or he knows they're crap but continues to spout his drivel just 'cause he likes to stir the pot.

Really JP, I think you're giving this charlatan waaaaay to much airtime.

**Ric Ferrari** · 06-08-2016, 10:15 AM

Hello Guys,

I really need good pictures (large ones) of V chest repro RODO marked.

Of course I mean like the ones pictured in Thaler's article, as I do not own one in my collection (only 36/42 marked)

Please PM when ready to send them and I will provide my email address.

Thanks in advance

Ric

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