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    (B) DM buckle?

    Unofficial buckle? Opinions?




    #2
    I have no idea whatsoever of what this buckle is supposed to be? IMO a pure fantasy piece.

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      #3
      Originally posted by KC1 View Post
      I have no idea whatsoever of what this buckle is supposed to be? IMO a pure fantasy piece.

      Thank you for your comment KC1..

      Buckle was found on a field in West Bohemia - the former Sudetenland. Buckle has been deformed by the field technician (harvesters) and then straightened in a vise. I personally do not think of many reasons that it's fake. Maybe some local Sudeten semi-official pre-war production? Women's organizations from the Sudeten as a model German BDM? Processing of aluminum buckle is not very good. These buckles known about 3 to 4 pieces - all buckles during the years been found in the Sudetenland mostly in poor condition.

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        #4
        Perhaps may be to the part for dress-uniforms Sudeten (B)DM? Perhaps for DM leader's only?

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          #5
          I have never seen a buckle like this one before.

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            #6
            I have never seen this buckle before, but I know it is 100% original !!!
            it has all the characteristics of a field dug buckle.
            Unfortunately I don't know where the monogram stands for.
            here the official officer buckle.
            Marc
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              #7
              Marc,

              I have never seen this buckle before, but I know it is 100% original !!!
              it has all the characteristics of a field dug buckle.
              I am not following your thought process???

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                #8
                There is no thoughts process,
                I just know, by experience, and the picture is enough to see this, that the above shown dug buckle is absolutely 100% original and war or even pré-war time.

                I have a very long personal experience with dug stuff and i just know when it is a real old dug or a fake patina. This one is real !

                It is extremely difficult if not impossible to correctly and convincing fake the patina and damage of a dug item on aluminum.
                Steel is much easier to fake.

                This do not mean I know what the buckle is or what the abbreviation stands for . But, this text, was certainly not used after the war, don't you think.......

                If I was still collecting, i would have offered a good amount of money for this buckle already as i never seen one in my 35 years off collecting.

                Marc

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                  #9
                  Ref. FOREIGN LEGIONS of the THIRD REICH by D.Littlejohn (1985) VOL. 3-
                  pgs. 52 - 56.

                  SLOVIKIA VOLKDUETSCHE- "D.P. - DEUTSCHE PARTEI"
                  The D.P.'s equivalent to the Allgemeine SS was the "Freiwillige Schutzstaffel"
                  (Vol. Def. Squad or F.S.).
                  Motto of the F.S. - "EHRE BLUT UND BODEN" (Honor, Blood, and Soil).

                  The males equivalent to the HJ was "DEUTSCHE JUGEND"- no referance to the female equiv. to the BDM but assume "Deutsche Madel".

                  There is referance to the F.S. officer's buckle w/SS eagle and swas. in shovel
                  emblem and motto- on pg. 54 but only a line drawing....however I have seen one or two F.S. buckles in my time....

                  I like the buckle too...I'm sure there's still afew new discoveries yet to be made!
                  John G.

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                    #10
                    Hi!
                    I have similar officers Blut und boden buckle but i am not sure if its original! It have SS markings on the back and that makes me think! Can someone show me the back of this rare buckle?

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                      #11
                      dm = Deutsche Mannschaft (in my opinion)

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                        #12
                        Yes but i need to know if there are any SS markings on the back of original? The front is the same as the one posted here!

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                          #13
                          Come one guys help me out here, please i need to know if the officers buckle with SS markings is correct or bogus?

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                            #14
                            Hi, I'm out of the loop for a few years now but as the above buckle used to be mine, I can tell you there is NO SS marking on such buckles !!
                            it would be easier if you could post us a picture of your buckle ...
                            Marc

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                              #15
                              Thank you Marc! I will post some photos later on!

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