Unofficial buckle? 
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I have no idea whatsoever of what this buckle is supposed to be? IMO a pure fantasy piece. -
Originally posted by KC1 View Post
Thank you for your comment KC1..
Buckle was found on a field in West Bohemia - the former Sudetenland. Buckle has been deformed by the field technician (harvesters) and then straightened in a vise. I personally do not think of many reasons that it's fake. Maybe some local Sudeten semi-official pre-war production? Women's organizations from the Sudeten as a model German BDM? Processing of aluminum buckle is not very good. These buckles known about 3 to 4 pieces - all buckles during the years been found in the Sudetenland mostly in poor condition.Comment
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Perhaps may be to the part for dress-uniforms Sudeten (B)DM? Perhaps for DM leader's only?Comment
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I have never seen a buckle like this one before.Comment
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I have never seen this buckle before, but I know it is 100% original !!!
it has all the characteristics of a field dug buckle.
Unfortunately I don't know where the monogram stands for.
here the official officer buckle.
MarcComment
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Marc,
I am not following your thought process???I have never seen this buckle before, but I know it is 100% original !!!
it has all the characteristics of a field dug buckle.Comment
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There is no thoughts process,
I just know, by experience, and the picture is enough to see this, that the above shown dug buckle is absolutely 100% original and war or even pré-war time.
I have a very long personal experience with dug stuff and i just know when it is a real old dug or a fake patina. This one is real !
It is extremely difficult if not impossible to correctly and convincing fake the patina and damage of a dug item on aluminum.
Steel is much easier to fake.
This do not mean I know what the buckle is or what the abbreviation stands for . But, this text, was certainly not used after the war, don't you think.......
If I was still collecting, i would have offered a good amount of money for this buckle already as i never seen one in my 35 years off collecting.
Marc
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Ref. FOREIGN LEGIONS of the THIRD REICH by D.Littlejohn (1985) VOL. 3-
pgs. 52 - 56.
SLOVIKIA VOLKDUETSCHE- "D.P. - DEUTSCHE PARTEI"
The D.P.'s equivalent to the Allgemeine SS was the "Freiwillige Schutzstaffel"
(Vol. Def. Squad or F.S.).
Motto of the F.S. - "EHRE BLUT UND BODEN" (Honor, Blood, and Soil).
The males equivalent to the HJ was "DEUTSCHE JUGEND"- no referance to the female equiv. to the BDM but assume "Deutsche Madel".
There is referance to the F.S. officer's buckle w/SS eagle and swas. in shovel
emblem and motto- on pg. 54 but only a line drawing....however I have seen one or two F.S. buckles in my time....
I like the buckle too...I'm sure there's still afew new discoveries yet to be made!
John G.Comment
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Hi!
I have similar officers Blut und boden buckle but i am not sure if its original! It have SS markings on the back and that makes me think! Can someone show me the back of this rare buckle?Comment
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dm = Deutsche Mannschaft (in my opinion)Comment
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Yes but i need to know if there are any SS markings on the back of original? The front is the same as the one posted here!Comment
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Come one guys help me out here, please i need to know if the officers buckle with SS markings is correct or bogus?Comment
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Hi, I'm out of the loop for a few years now but as the above buckle used to be mine, I can tell you there is NO SS marking on such buckles !!
it would be easier if you could post us a picture of your buckle ...
MarcComment
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Thank you Marc! I will post some photos later on!Comment
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