5 SS Buckles

[dolchmann07]

Hello, I am new to this site, and have posted 2 or 3 times on other forums in my lifetime. I have been a collector for many years. Over the past 15 years, I only buy what I consider a no brainer as far as being authentic or not, if it is questionable I just move on. But I have accumulated 8 SS buckles when buying small collections all but one I bought assuming they were reproductions, (I now question the one I thought was good) by going through the old posts on this site I have picked out 3 that I now know are reproductions, would it be rude of me to post 5 SS buckles and see if I can get your ideas on them. My main interest is daggers, helmets and tinnies, I have many buckles and I feel they are all good, it is just these SS buckles that I am stuck on.

[NortonI]

go on - you already made your homework - now its time for the experts to help you

[dolchmann07]

Ss 155/39

I thought that it might be a little assuming of me to just post 5 buckles at once.
Do I need to keep all 5 buckles on the same thread or divide it up?
When posting is the idea to save space ?
I would like to thank all or anyone who responds with information that i can use. The first buckle is markled 155/39, I have seen some good ones in this forum and some bad ones. It does have the rounded 9

[dolchmann07]

SS 1555/39 rear view

SS 1555/39 rear view

[dolchmann07]

SS 155/39 text veiw

SS 155/39 text veiw

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 155/40 front view

I have seen several variations of fakes of the 155 on the forum, I have not seen one exactly like this one, but real close. This one is highly suspect in my mind, but I do not want to throw it away, until some one else says it is bad.
Thanks

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 155/40 rear view

SS RZM 155/40 rear view

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 155/40 text view

SS RZM 155/40 text view

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 822/38 front view

This is the one that I bought and thought it might be good, I gave up buying these when you could no longer assume that a aluminum version of the SS buckles were automatically good. I know it was a few years back. And the more I looked on this forum and other websites and forums the less I liked this buckle. I hope I am wrong.
thanks

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 822/38 rear view

SS RZM 822/38 rear view

[dolchmann07]

SS RZM 822/38 text view

I did see a group of 3 822/38's and this one looked like one of them, but you could not make out some details of the 3 buckles. I also saw one that looked like this get bad reviews on another site.
Thanks

[helmutderpa]

Hello,

The 155/40 is for sure a fake one!

The two others look right but it would be better to take a digital caliper and measure them.
If length of the buckle is over 64 mm, buckle is good, less than 63mm it is a fake.

Simon

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Both aluminum are original. The Assmann 155/39 is the Type 1, the most common of two Types known. The 822/38 is one of a group of 3 (you are indeed correct) and the most desirable of this group since the one with large numbers. The steel is a poor fake.

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

If length of the buckle is over 64 mm, buckle is good, less than 63mm it is a fake

This is unfortunately no longer true. I strongly believe I did a big mistake when I wrote this years ago ... Too many collectors published / wrote to others this input as the quick factor to set an original from a fake forgetting all other differences they could use instead. The result has been that now fakers increased ONLY this size to be just over the 64 mm mark and screw collectors ... I will post a large article on this later.

[dolchmann07]

SS O & C Front

I want to thank you all so much for your help. I have 2 more and I think they are fakes too. But the O & C that stasts in this post is about as high detailed as I have seen, the wreath and the feathering of the wings, I know this means nothing.
Thanks, I am happy if 2 of the 5 are good.