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    #16
    GAry

    nice buckles! I really like the double marked HJ ! it is one that I now need to add to my list of needed buckles! thanks for sharing..Chad

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      #17
      This is one really great thread from which one can really learn. Sorry I cannot add anything materially. I was just flabbergasted at seeing David's steel Werkschar, but of course the SA buckle should also never have been produced in steel. Chapeau to you, David, for showing these beauties!

      Regards, Karl

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        Originally posted by Karl Ortmann
        This is one really great thread from which one can really learn. Sorry I cannot add anything materially. I was just flabbergasted at seeing David's steel Werkschar, but of course the SA buckle should also never have been produced in steel. Chapeau to you, David, for showing these beauties!

        Regards, Karl
        I agree, an excellent & very informative thread, thanks.

        Cheers
        Don

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          #19
          Daivid

          here is another Berg & Nolte buckle that I have just picked up at the MAX show..it is solid nickel and has the RZM 36 in the normal makers mark spot, and has a side stamping marked RZM M4/30...note the not the brass footed catch not typical to this maker. Chad
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                  #23
                  A super addition to the thread Chad !

                  A lovely HJ buckle and how pleasant to see the double stampings.

                  The inner side wall stamping as a great bonus.

                  How right you are though in connection with your comments toward the wide bridge catch. It does not seem the typical Berg und Nolte type, although perhaps reasonably similar.

                  Why is it that on certain HJ's, we see the wide bridge catch with a certain "lean", as though it has been forced ? I cannot recall this characteristic on any other buckle with a similar catch.

                  Excellent buckle though and many thanks for posting.

                  Regards,

                  David

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                    #24
                    David...you are quite right..I have noticed the "leaning" catch only on HJ and DJ buckles...If you wish I can go through mine and post some photos if you want..let me know..Chad
                    Originally posted by David North
                    A super addition to the thread Chad !

                    A lovely HJ buckle and how pleasant to see the double stampings.

                    The inner side wall stamping as a great bonus.

                    How right you are though in connection with your comments toward the wide bridge catch. It does not seem the typical Berg und Nolte type, although perhaps reasonably similar.

                    Why is it that on certain HJ's, we see the wide bridge catch with a certain "lean", as though it has been forced ? I cannot recall this characteristic on any other buckle with a similar catch.

                    Excellent buckle though and many thanks for posting.

                    Regards,

                    David

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                      #25
                      Chad

                      It would be interesting and when there is an opportune moment, to have a squint at your "leaning catches". I wonder if there is a common construction ? The possibility of course that these catches were bought in from an outside source, rather than being fabricated on site by the actual buckle manufacturer. Why do they "lean" ?

                      Regards,

                      David

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                        Originally posted by David North View Post
                        Chad

                        It would be interesting and when there is an opportune moment, to have a squint at your "leaning catches". I wonder if there is a common construction ? The possibility of course that these catches were bought in from an outside source, rather than being fabricated on site by the actual buckle manufacturer. Why do they "lean" ?

                        Regards,

                        David



                        Here is one type - but I do not know whether this is the original



                        ...more pic.

                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=486659

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                          A revival of this old thread as I was further documenting and re-photographing my HJ and DJ buckles.

                          Thought I would add to this thread with my B&N buckle with the side panel stamp of RZM M4/30. This buckle is made from nickel with brass catch and steel roller bar assembly. This is similar to the one Gary posted with the additional RZM embossed stamp by the catch.
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