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    Red Sniper Taking out a Tank

    He Guys,
    last week I saw the movie RED SNIPER and in one part they fire with a mosi nagant rifle and anti tank bullets (?) on the drivers glas optik. Three hits and it went trough and killed the driver.....
    Anyone with a good explanation if that is possible ?
    TX
    Sascha
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    #2
    I think the explanation is that you watched a stupid movie

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      #3
      The movie is actually really good. Just like with almost all movies, some details are exaggerated quite a bit. But hey, movies are there for entertainmant

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        #4
        Originally posted by Marcel Banziger View Post
        The movie is actually really good. Just like with almost all movies, some details are exaggerated quite a bit. But hey, movies are there for entertainmant
        You mean like Fury, white Tiger, inglorious bastards, ... all quite realistic 🤭😂
        Everybody his cup of tea of course but I hate movies like that.

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          #5
          Originally posted by JanC View Post
          You mean like Fury, white Tiger, inglorious bastards, ... all quite realistic 🤭😂
          Everybody his cup of tea of course but I hate movies like that.
          Those films you mentioned are all Hollywood crap imo.
          The scene described in the initial post is from "Bitva za Sevastopol" or Battle for Sevastopol, which is about female sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko.

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            #6
            There's "artistic licence" and then just plain unrealistic .

            Troy

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              #7
              Originally posted by sniper11 View Post
              There's "artistic licence" and then just plain unrealistic .

              Troy
              Troy, I take it you did not like the "Transformer" movies.? J

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                #8
                Military manuals of the ww2 time show various ways to destroy tanks, but only mention shooting at the tank sights to blind it, not to destroy it.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqTZfBKw5Mc
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                  #9
                  In the film the tank is not destroyed by three shots from a sniper. The scene goes that the first shot damages the optik, the second shot penetrates the damaged optik and the third shot kills the driver behind the optik. No tank was destroyed by this.

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                    #10
                    Remember - Saving Private Ryan demonstrated the textbook-approved method of taking out a Tiger with a Thompson.

                    Michael

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                      #11
                      Ant, where did you find the image of the Nb.Hgr.39 strapped to the fuel canister? I've seen the M24 used in this manner, which makes sense, but I don't understand the reasoning behind using a smoke grenade.

                      Bern

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bern View Post
                        Ant, where did you find the image of the Nb.Hgr.39 strapped to the fuel canister? I've seen the M24 used in this manner, which makes sense, but I don't understand the reasoning behind using a smoke grenade.

                        Bern
                        literally is

                        Kampfunfähige Panzerkampfwagen können auch mit einem Benzinkanister in brand gefeßt werden. Hierzu ist der Benzinkanister zu durchlöchen, die Löcher sind mit Holztropfen zu verschließen. Der Benzinkanister wird vor dem Anbringen auf der Motorabdeckung durch Abziehen einer Nebelhandgranate angezündet."
                        (Panzerabwehr aller Waffen. Richtlinien fur Panzernahbekämpfung. Oktober 1942)
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                        Last edited by another ant; 05-17-2020, 10:49 AM.

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                          #13
                          I have a "Tank Recognition" booklet that was issued to a New Zealand officer (possibly LRDG) for the purpose of recognizing enemy A.F.Vs including their vulnerable areas, and quote "The best targets for small arms and anti tank rifle fire are marked with arrows."

                          Pictures include Italian "M" 11 and "M" 13 tanks and Mk 2, 3 and 4 German tanks.
                          There are a lot of tanks with arrows pointing to the drivers vision port.
                          Its late so will post some pictures tomorrow.

                          Brent

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by another ant View Post
                            Military manuals of the ww2 time show various ways to destroy tanks, but only mention shooting at the tank sights to blind it, not to destroy it.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqTZfBKw5Mc
                            Russian training film screen shot and one from a museum somewhere in Russia
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                              #15
                              Hi,

                              i see two problems in the "story" has it happen in this war movie :

                              - Mosin Nagant can't use antitank bullet. However there was a prototype before the war which was never adopted :
                              https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...-nagant-rifle/

                              - an antitank rifle like the PTRD-41 (14.5mm) however have such antitank bullet, but its precision was not that good, therefore it would be very hard - if not impossible - to make three shots in the driver episcope.

                              See You

                              Vince

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