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    #46
    The hinge and catch do not really condemn it, but the rest of the evidence does.

    This has been another very good example of a learning curve.

    As Hans has said, we all get burnt at some point or other. I for one bought a couple of EK2 mm113 some 20 plus years ago, for years I believed they were original - then the bad news came home - both were fakes, I felt gutted and at first didn't want to believe the evidence in front of me - but stepping back and looking again at the evidence I accepted the facts before me - and I thought I knew about EK's. It's a constant learning curve and fight against the fakers. you learn something new every day.

    Mike

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      #47
      Hi Kai

      These badges are stamped as most of the black wb fakes and you are right BWB are not
      safe anymore or have been for some time.

      Unfortunately I have seen more and more of the “simpler” badges/awards being faked
      and that would make sense for the faker, it would be much easier to sell 1000 fake BWB
      than a single fake Knights Cross. Until recently no one cared about BWB’s or even
      looked closely at them but who wouldn’t look carefully buying a KC

      Don’t be hard on yourself Kai ask if anyone here haven’t got a bad one once and a while

      BTW here is a picture of the "dent" on the pin

      Cheers,
      Ronny
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        #48
        Thank you all

        May I just add my sincere thanks and appreciation to all who have taken part in this thread, in the true spirit of what this forum is all about.

        Special thanks to Kai, my friend. You are a true Gentleman.

        Best wishes to all once again.

        Jason.

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          #49
          Originally posted by rkhunter View Post
          Hi Ronny, I have spent many many years collecting all kinds of militaria. I take allot of pride in my research of my pieces that I purchase for my collections, especially my TR one. I study as much as I can and I do not except a piece into my collection until I am 100% happy with it concerning authenticity etc. I have spent many many hours on the forum and looking through books etc and also handling many period badges. And this one I was 100% happy with. If this turns out to be a bad one Ronny then I am totally lost for words, and yes I would have learned something very new also. As if the fakers have old paint and old hardware sets for their fake badges then we are in big trouble! And if this badge does turn out to be a fake I will send the badge to you free of charge Ronny for your research! That will not be a problem! I will wait for more opinions on this badge from the rest of the wound badge collectors, as IMO it is a good one!

          Cheers,


          Kai

          My offer still stands by offering to buy the badge

          Cheers,
          Ronny

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            #50
            Hello Kai

            I guess your offer is to send the badge to me is off
            I just found out that the badge is already sent to somebody else for free.

            I don’t really know what to say about that in English so I will say it in plain Swedish
            Fy fan!

            So thanks guys your actions are much appreciated

            Ronny

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              #51
              Originally posted by Ronny.R View Post
              Hello Kai

              I guess your offer is to send the badge to me is off
              I just found out that the badge is already sent to somebody else for free.

              I don’t really know what to say about that in English so I will say it in plain Swedish
              Fy fan!

              So thanks guys your actions are much appreciated

              Ronny
              Ronny - in English the phrase would be "that's a sh1t way of doing things", so your "Fy fan" was pretty close to the mark.



              Mike
              Last edited by fugpaw; 06-08-2009, 01:22 PM. Reason: I was far too quick off the mark :(

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                #52
                Originally posted by Chris Varveris View Post
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                Can be found also and as packeted with fakes of course bags bearing the firm of Fritz Kohm
                From my rush i made a mistake, the bags are not stamped Fritz Kohm but Heinrich Vogt...by the way other fake bags with that fakes is Frank & Reif.
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                  #53
                  Just to get things straight

                  I received a PM from Kai

                  Where he explained what happend
                  He mixed me up with someone else and the badge was sent regarding to that
                  He apologized and I accepted

                  S*it happens, even to me


                  Cheers,
                  Ronny

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                    #54
                    Hi Ronny, sorry again, and no worries my friend! I think I need a wee holiday somewhere away from the of World militaria, as my brain is getting fryed with too much of this stuff!

                    Cheers,

                    Kai

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                      #55
                      Here are the pictures I promised


                      Cheers,
                      Ronny
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                        #56
                        And the back

                        You can also see this link
                        http://www.germancombatawards.com/th...threadid=15193

                        Cheers,
                        Ronny
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                          #57
                          Thanks Ronny, very interesting!

                          Cheers,


                          Kai

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                            #58
                            Here is the exact same badge that Kai sold to Jason, which they so kindly sent to me for free for my research of fake WB´s - which my signature states.

                            Ronny, you can cuddle with it all you like anytime my friend.
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                            Regards
                            Hans N

                            Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                            I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                              #59
                              rev
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                              Regards
                              Hans N

                              Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                              I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                                #60
                                A bit to small scans so i made some new ones
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                                Regards
                                Hans N

                                Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                                I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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