Gau Thuringen Remaked

[Matthew]

Simple badge design and unfortunately equally simple design to re-make. This is for those of us that thought we were on a safe ground with those pins. Most pics below come from this site and since I scrolled any available threads to pull them I can tell you that those fakes did (and still do) fool most collectors in this field. For the rest that chose to believe its no biggie- enjoy your bliss.
Let's start with a confirmed fake. A cast bearing the number 358. Look at the circled areas- few cast bubbles but also a small blob near the center of a swastica as well as repetitive (repetitive as in all of those fake badges) blobs on the verso, between the swastika arms.

[Matthew]

next one

Next one up- a fake bronze 222 marked badge. As we'll see 222 seem to be quite a popular number on those pins. This one features a 'tear' to the side of the eagle's neck- also a trait that is present on most (but not all) of the more questionable Gau Thuringen badges. The usual and already mentioned (and circled) features are also present.

[Matthew]

Close up on the number

Close up on the number.

[Matthew]

Next

Next one up- IMO another badge that features some of the more unsettling features. This one engraved 991. Adren (who I believe owns this example posted much better pics elsewhere on this forum revealing those features in bigger scale)

[Matthew]

another 222

This one- another 222 as posted by Gary. Not sharp enough to make out the details but look at the circled areas.

[Matthew]

222 numeral detail

My futile attempt at the numerals close up.

[Matthew]

another 222

Yet another 222. This time in bronze grade. Again- too small to make out any details.

[Matthew]

Another badge that I would welcome opinions on here

[Matthew]

And the verso. Can't make out any crucial details myself so any help is appreciated on this one

[JoeW]

Interesting forensic examination.

[Matthew]

Copyrighted images posted. Sorry =(

[JoeW]

The variance in pin is obvious on some of them. Are all the fake silver badges marked 800?

[Stan]

Good work Matthew.

The Bronze version marked "222" in Post#7 appears to be original though. Maybe this was the one the faker copied?

Stan

[Patrick W]

I agree with Stan, the bronze 222 is genuine.

[adren]

Here is the thread on my badge awhile back, I got the badge from Gary Symonds. I did like it alot then and if it is bad, then it is an excellent fake.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=505623

I did not know that if there is a "blob" then it is a fake? Is it common knowledge to these badges?

I've seen some cast pieces but the finish looks a lot like patinaned silver to me when looking at it in hand. I will try to make better pictures later.

Best Regards,

Adren