1929 Nurnberg Badge- Facts and Theories

[der-hase-fee]

There was also a solid type in aluminium (not cupal) !

Like this ?

[ErichS]

It was the largest rally "to date", that is, the 1929 rally attracted the most attendees up to that point. Subsequent RPTs (in 1933 and after) had larger attendance and therefore larger numbers of badges sold.
If you mean the non-portable plaques being bronze, silver, and gold, I don't believe anyone has discovered documentation of the purpose of the plaques or grade distinctions.
Erich

Along with the rally being the largest to date, it also produced two more martyrs for the party.

[manu1972]

Like this ?

I personally DO like it. Although solid portable RPTs are rare to find and ... that's why I'm suspicious. Just because the two Nürnberg N's or R's are slightly different doesn't mean it's false since I've seen originals with this detail as well. In non-portable solid boards, this distinction between N does not exist or is minimal. I am nobody to tell you that it is original. They just sold me a fake like a temple. But this one of course I like more than the one that got in.

Cheers

Manuel.

[Military]

Hi Manuel,

The only solid backed type that I would like to have in my collection would be the horizontal Hoffstatter type. The one you've shown seems to have slightly different fonts but from the same firm. It also does not have any Ges Gesch for copyright. The one you've shown from your friend seems to be aluminum? The letters of Hoffstatter seems to be spaced far apart as well. I do recall that the vertical Hoffstatter solid backed was discussed only a few months ago somewhere and feelings were mixed.

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Mil.

[Reinhard2]

I would say that it is okay. Have you ever seen an aluminium made one and do you know how difficult it is to fake one in this metal ?!

[manu1972]

Hi Manuel,

The only solid backed type that I would like to have in my collection would be the horizontal Hoffstatter type. The one you've shown seems to have slightly different fonts but from the same firm. It also does not have any Ges Gesch for copyright. The one you've shown from your friend seems to be aluminum? The letters of Hoffstatter seems to be spaced far apart as well. I do recall that the vertical Hoffstatter solid backed was discussed only a few months ago somewhere and feelings were mixed.

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Mil.

Hello Friend Military.

It is beautiful and says that you have been told that it is original. But you haven't told me what kind of metal it is made of.

He only seems to be sure of its legitimacy.

He gave it to me to compare the badge that Winkler sold me as "an extremely rare variant" and from which he has returned my money and is still for sale in case anyone is interested in investing 575e in that item ...
Nor does this man who sent me the photos of his badge surprisingly respond to my emails, so I cannot help you with your question.

Cheers

Manuel

[manu1972]

Hi Manuel,

The only solid backed type that I would like to have in my collection would be the horizontal Hoffstatter type. The one you've shown seems to have slightly different fonts but from the same firm. It also does not have any Ges Gesch for copyright. The one you've shown from your friend seems to be aluminum? The letters of Hoffstatter seems to be spaced far apart as well. I do recall that the vertical Hoffstatter solid backed was discussed only a few months ago somewhere and feelings were mixed.

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Mil.

hello again friend.
I don't know what the members of this think. It has the RZM rear marking and that is very strange to me, since Hitler arrived at the chancellery in January 1933. therefore there was no government section dedicated to the quality control of these small plates. It also does not show marking and the helmet is nonsense (IMO).

What do you think, ? Should it have printed rzm or is it generally original?

Thank you

Manuel.

PS: (I have not bought this badge)

[Reinhard2]

The RZM type existed also because the badge was recognized as a party honor badge. But I only know until yet the RZM 15 type.

[Military]

The RZM ones were produced later when it was elevated as an honor status. Some believed that Assmann also produced them. RZM 15 would be for Hoffstatter if I’m not mistaken.

There are many more learned members than myself who can help verify those badges. What sort of 1929 are you looking for? Marked? Unmarked?

Mil

[manu1972]

The RZM ones were produced later when it was elevated as an honor status. Some believed that Assmann also produced them. RZM 15 would be for Hoffstatter if I’m not mistaken.

There are many more learned members than myself who can help verify those badges. What sort of 1929 are you looking for? Marked? Unmarked?

Mil

Hello Mil. And thanks for helping me.
Actually I would like it better if it goes under the manufacturer brand F. Hofftatter, but after all, it is such a difficult and desired piece that when you see it by chance for sale, it is frustrating to ALWAYS see the "SOLD" sign. There is one more thing I would like to know. The portable versions were only made in silver version? I say this because essentially those are the ones I see in those situations where "the eagle has already flown" ...

Forgive my ignorance.

Cheers

[Reinhard2]

The first ones for the meeting were made of bronze but could be worn further on when they got the honor badge status. The persons, who took part in the meeting but didn't buy the badge or lost it, could afterwards buy them in the silver version.

[Military]

The first ones for the meeting were made of bronze but could be worn further on when they got the honor badge status. The persons, who took part in the meeting but didn't buy the badge or lost it, could afterwards buy them in the silver version.

Yes, this was my understanding as well. Was this also thee same as the 1933 Nuremberg tinnie that was later elevated into a honor status and also available in Silver???

Mil

[Reinhard2]

Only nearly the same. The RPT 1933 badge, also as honor badge, is normally in bronze(copper). The silver ones existed only in 1000 silver with the same needle system as the bronze ones, but they were only given to honor guests. That's why they are as scarce.

[ErichS]

Only nearly the same. The RPT 1933 badge, also as honor badge, is normally in bronze(copper). The silver ones existed only in 1000 silver with the same needle system as the bronze ones, but they were only given to honor guests. That's why they are as scarce.

The 33 badge was a traditions badge and not an official honor badge like the 29 badge.

[Reinhard2]

ErichS is right. The only meeting badges which got the status from a honor badge were the Nürnberg 1929 and the Braunschweig 1931. The Nürnberg 1933 and the Gau München-Oberbayern were only tradition badges, but it seems that the Gau München-Oberbayern were much less worn or later forbidden to wear. I have only one portrait where it is worn.