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    Pre R.A.D N.S arbeitsdienst pin

    Hello ,

    Here is a N.S.A.D pin that i just recieved,does anyone have one in there collection that theyve had for a while?I would like to see others for comparison reasons as I have never seen one out of a old collection and i know these have been faked.any comments would be appreciated

    Yancy
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    Originally posted by Yancy Irwin
    Hello ,

    Here is a N.S.A.D pin that i just recieved,does anyone have one in there collection that theyve had for a while?I would like to see others for comparison reasons as I have never seen one out of a old collection and i know these have been faked.any comments would be appreciated

    Yancy
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      #3
      Here's one. It's definitely different from yours, both front and back.
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        Reverse.
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          #5
          Originally posted by George Stimson
          Reverse.
          Hello,

          heres the scan from the manions catalog showing the 2 fakes-the sorry the scan came out even crapier than the original crapy picture-the only detail i could see on the pictures of the FAKES was that the arms of the swatstika on the FAKES did not touch the shovel-the wheat stalks also appear to be a light color-impossible to tell if its silver or gold cause the pictures in black and white also the pin attachments on mine and Georges are different.I looked in John Angolias book "Labor Organizations of the Reich " and on pg 506 the pin shown has a swatstika thats arms DO touch the shovel but the wheat stalks are a different shape than both mine and Georges pin.anyone else have any thoughts or comments?

          Yancy
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            On the Manion's fake (at least, the one on the left) it looks like the "EI" in "ARBEIT" is directly above the point of the shovel. On mine, it's slightly to the left of the point. The spaces in the shovel handle appear different on the Manion's example and mine.
            Yancy, are you sure the Manion's swazes aren't touching the shovel? Like the lighter metal borders of each touching each other?
            George

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              #7
              Another observation

              On the Manion's fakes, look at the space between "N. S." and "Arbeitsdienst." On Yancy's and my examples the letters flow right into the word, without any space.
              George

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                #8
                Originally posted by George Stimson
                On the Manion's fakes, look at the space between "N. S." and "Arbeitsdienst." On Yancy's and my examples the letters flow right into the word, without any space.
                Hello,

                Im reposting a picture of mine as i wasnt happy with the one i first posted-you made a good point about the gap on the fakes between the N.S. and arbeitsdienst,our pins do not have this gap-the I on arbeitsdienst on mine and the one pictured on PG 506 of angolias book are directly above the shovel head were on the fakes from manions the shovel head is in the middle of the EI-I do believe however that the swatstika does not touch the shovel on the manions picture-it is very hard to tell but the original is a little easier to see as it lost some picture quality when i enlarged it-the original picture in manions was 1/2 inch by 1 inch total!!


                Yancy
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                  #9
                  Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


                  I do like George's pin.

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                    Yancy
                    this is a most reproduced pin
                    i believe yours is a fake
                    Georges looks pretty good
                    these are actually quite rare
                    mike
                    http://enamelsofwar.homestead.com

                    Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


                    I do like George's pin.[/QUOTE]

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                      Originally posted by Mike Pinkus
                      Yancy
                      this is a most reproduced pin
                      i believe yours is a fake
                      Georges looks pretty good
                      these are actually quite rare
                      mike
                      http://enamelsofwar.homestead.com

                      Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


                      I do like George's pin.
                      [/QUOTE]

                      Hey Mike,

                      thanks for the info-that sucks-I should have guest that for $30 it was to good to be true!! George send me your address via PM and i will send it to you for the riker mount of fakes!


                      Yancy

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                        Yancy

                        Done.
                        George

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                          Hello George,
                          What is the colour of the reverse of your badge as mine looks the same but is silver. Scan available if you wish.
                          Yours,
                          Wood

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                            Wood,

                            Mine is silver too. It looks a little yellowish because it's getting a some reflection from a nearby incandescent light.
                            I would like to see a scan of your badge -- back and front, if possible.
                            George

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                              Here's Wood's.
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