Pre R.A.D N.S arbeitsdienst pin

[Radcollector]

Hello ,

Here is a N.S.A.D pin that i just recieved,does anyone have one in there collection that theyve had for a while?I would like to see others for comparison reasons as I have never seen one out of a old collection and i know these have been faked.any comments would be appreciated

Yancy

[Radcollector]

Hello ,

Here is a N.S.A.D pin that i just recieved,does anyone have one in there collection that theyve had for a while?I would like to see others for comparison reasons as I have never seen one out of a old collection and i know these have been faked.any comments would be appreciated

Yancy

the back

[George Stimson]

Here's one. It's definitely different from yours, both front and back.

[George Stimson]

Reverse.

[Radcollector]

Reverse.

Hello,

heres the scan from the manions catalog showing the 2 fakes-the sorry the scan came out even crapier than the original crapy picture-the only detail i could see on the pictures of the FAKES was that the arms of the swatstika on the FAKES did not touch the shovel-the wheat stalks also appear to be a light color-impossible to tell if its silver or gold cause the pictures in black and white also the pin attachments on mine and Georges are different.I looked in John Angolias book "Labor Organizations of the Reich " and on pg 506 the pin shown has a swatstika thats arms DO touch the shovel but the wheat stalks are a different shape than both mine and Georges pin.anyone else have any thoughts or comments?

Yancy

[George Stimson]

On the Manion's fake (at least, the one on the left) it looks like the "EI" in "ARBEIT" is directly above the point of the shovel. On mine, it's slightly to the left of the point. The spaces in the shovel handle appear different on the Manion's example and mine.
Yancy, are you sure the Manion's swazes aren't touching the shovel? Like the lighter metal borders of each touching each other?

[George Stimson]

Another observation

On the Manion's fakes, look at the space between "N. S." and "Arbeitsdienst." On Yancy's and my examples the letters flow right into the word, without any space.

[Radcollector]

On the Manion's fakes, look at the space between "N. S." and "Arbeitsdienst." On Yancy's and my examples the letters flow right into the word, without any space.

Hello,

Im reposting a picture of mine as i wasnt happy with the one i first posted-you made a good point about the gap on the fakes between the N.S. and arbeitsdienst,our pins do not have this gap-the I on arbeitsdienst on mine and the one pictured on PG 506 of angolias book are directly above the shovel head were on the fakes from manions the shovel head is in the middle of the EI-I do believe however that the swatstika does not touch the shovel on the manions picture-it is very hard to tell but the original is a little easier to see as it lost some picture quality when i enlarged it-the original picture in manions was 1/2 inch by 1 inch total!!


Yancy

[jscott]

Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


I do like George's pin.

[Mike Pinkus]

Yancy
this is a most reproduced pin
i believe yours is a fake
Georges looks pretty good
these are actually quite rare
mike
http://enamelsofwar.homestead.com

Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


I do like George's pin.[/QUOTE]

[Radcollector]

Yancy
this is a most reproduced pin
i believe yours is a fake
Georges looks pretty good
these are actually quite rare
mike
http://enamelsofwar.homestead.com

Yancy, Mike Pinkus has a pin like yours on his site, Mike's is the only original one that I think I've seen. I've seen these pins like the one you have posted, and I've ran away from them due to the way the clasp hods the pin.


I do like George's pin.

[/QUOTE]

Hey Mike,

thanks for the info-that sucks-I should have guest that for $30 it was to good to be true!! George send me your address via PM and i will send it to you for the riker mount of fakes!


Yancy

[George Stimson]

Yancy

Done.

[Wood]

Hello George,
What is the colour of the reverse of your badge as mine looks the same but is silver. Scan available if you wish.
Yours,
Wood

[George Stimson]

Wood,

Mine is silver too. It looks a little yellowish because it's getting a some reflection from a nearby incandescent light.
I would like to see a scan of your badge -- back and front, if possible.

[George Stimson]

Here's Wood's.