The Coburg Badge

[Matthew]

important info

I must've missed the important info as posted by Jon Fish- can someone point me in the right direction here?

cheers

Matt

[ErichS]

The pin arrangement on the said badge is proof that the owners of them did whatever possible to keep wearing their prized awards.

[Military]

Matt,

I believe 99.9% of all badges have gone through Jon's hands. Some say he's the finest purveyor of all the world's top TR badges.
Others say he works in customs and vets through all packages that comes from dealer addresses.

Mil

[Military]

The pin arrangement on the said badge is proof that the owners of them did whatever possible to keep wearing their prized awards.

Agreed. They probably wore them with pride and as a treasured possession. I think I brought this question before - why weren't Coburger Abzeichen's marked with a serial number, even for second patterns? Surely if the BO and GPBs were, and if the CB was recognised as the cream de la creame of all awards, why weren't these marked?

Mil

[ErichS]

Agreed. They probably wore them with pride and as a treasured possession. I think I brought this question before - why weren't Coburger Abzeichen's marked with a serial number, even for second patterns? Surely if the BO and GPBs were, and if the CB was recognised as the cream de la creame of all awards, why weren't these marked?

Mil

Don't forget that these were awarded before Hitler came to power and my guess is that when the first badges were awarded in 1932 at Coburg and with so few awarded they didn't feel that numbering the badges was needed. It seems that the only thing needed was a master list of recipients.
Many more BOs and GPBs were awarded so numbering became necessary is my guess.

The 2nd patterns IMO, were replacement badges and honor awards given by Hitler. Schwede Coburg is a good example as he was awarded a 2nd pattern badge.

[Military]

Hi Erich,

The theory makes perfect sense. The two pin replacement version is a nice one. If given the choice, would you go for a textbook pin or a replacement version that has more character and unusual? Any thoughts?

Mil

[ErichS]

I kinda like the ones with character that shows how much the badges were honored and loved by their owners. Any original CB is a gem IMO.

Personally I'm partial to 1st pattern badges which were awarded at Coburg in 1932.

Matt, the badge being discussed was at a show in Munich from I understand.

[Matthew]

Matt,

I believe 99.9% of all badges have gone through Jon's hands. Some say he's the finest purveyor of all the world's top TR badges.
Others say he works in customs and vets through all packages that comes from dealer addresses.

Mil

Matt, the badge being discussed was at a show in Munich from I understand.

Sorry but I don't follow? This badge as shown on Weitze's update was this important Coburg info that Jon mentioned few days back to be posted later?

[Richard]

It is a bit of an odd pin replacement as I would imagine it a bit cumbersome to fasten both pins to your shirt/coat/jacket. At the rate these prices are going, it is far outstripping my ability to ever purchase one of these significant awards.
Richard V

[Military]

Richard,

Time to get one now or once it hits the 10k mark, the material refreezes and becomes unobtainium.

Mil

[ErichS]

Richard,

Time to get one now or once it hits the 10k mark, the material refreezes and becomes unobtainium.

Mil

1st patterns here in the US have already passed the 10k mark.

[der-hase-fee]

1st patterns here in the US have already passed the 10k mark.

And in Japan, they passed the 1 million mark.

[Bob Hritz]

I found another one. This has the groove in the reverse, behind the sword. Now I only need the RZM 189 marked piece to complete the set of 4 types.

Bob Hritz

[ErichS]

Very impressive collection Bob and thanks for posting them and congrats on picking up your 2nd 1st pattern badge!

Think I have only seen a couple RZM 189 badges to Date.

[Richard]

I found another one. This has the groove in the reverse, behind the sword. Now I only need the RZM 189 marked piece to complete the set of 4 types.

Bob Hritz

Bob, can you put me in your will? What a great set you have there. I have an 11 year old son that is good for mowing lawns for at least another 10 years if you ever want to consider a trade.
Richard V