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    #1

    AH Wellner soup? Bowl

    Found this at a flea market today
    it’s around 12” across
    is it a soup bowl??
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    It may be a soup bowl, but unfortunately, it's not one of Hitler's. It's my opinion, this is a fantasy piece. The party eagle stamp was not properly executed and it's a bit sloppy in the details. Here are some pictures of proper Wellner markings.

    AH Oval Silver Platter 4.jpg Wellner.JPG S-Adolf Hitler-Gravy Ladle1.JPG
    https://www.ww2treasures.com
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      #3
      It’s hard to photograph but the eagle seems to match the ones you have shown very well
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        #4
        Originally posted by nickn View Post
        Found this at a flea market today
        it’s around 12” across
        is it a soup bowl??
        Its fine.

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          #5
          With all due respect, it is not fine. It's not even close. I'm sorry you can't see this. In the world of ever increasing fakes, micro details matter. They separate the fakes vs the real deal. I'll try to illustrate my point in the below pictures...focus on the details in the circled areas.

          We have a thread dedicated to this topic https://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...17-ah-flatware


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            #6
            Wear and tear

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              #7
              The eagle matches others on a well respected dealers site
              There appears to be a few different variations of this eagle

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                #8
                Originally posted by nickn View Post
                The eagle matches others on a well respected dealers site
                There appears to be a few different variations of this eagle
                Its fine....if they were reproducing many more would be found...plain period High quality alpaca is not easy to come by.
                And if copied only a die stamp would be made....you could never justify a roller

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                  #9
                  Any piece produced by Wellner was made of silver.
                  there should be a round circle underneath the monogram with the silver content.
                  The silver content was represented with a number
                  your piece lacks both.
                  Most pieces also had a rolled edge
                  this one lacks it also.
                  and lastly, I knew it wasn’t period just by looking at the head of the eagle.
                  look at the eye/mouth on your example, and the same place on known originals.
                  you’ll see the difference.
                  I could go on, but we’ll let it go at that.
                  Cool man cave piece, but not an original piece ever produced by Wellner

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                    #10
                    For one they are not made of silver they are silver plate

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                      #11
                      And there are example of this eagle head on a well known and trusted dealers site
                      i

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by STLMatt View Post
                        Any piece produced by Wellner was made of silver.
                        there should be a round circle underneath the monogram with the silver content.
                        The silver content was represented with a number
                        your piece lacks both.
                        Most pieces also had a rolled edge
                        this one lacks it also.
                        and lastly, I knew it wasn’t period just by looking at the head of the eagle.
                        look at the eye/mouth on your example, and the same place on known originals.
                        you’ll see the difference.
                        I could go on, but we’ll let it go at that.
                        Cool man cave piece, but not an original piece ever produced by Wellner
                        Every Wellner piece was silver....thats nonsense

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                          #13
                          The serving platters and trays were silver plated.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                            The serving platters and trays were silver plated.
                            Correct
                            and the number in the circle under the name is the silver content

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                              #15
                              It’s not the silver content it’s the amount of silver in the plating ie how thick
                              these are silver plate not silver

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