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EK2, Hessen Medaille für Tapferkeit (?), 2x Friedrich-August-Medaille (?), Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer, Medaille Winterschlacht im Osten, Dienstauszeichnung (?)
and a part of the Frame of an Iron Cross 1. Klasse
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KVK-II, Winterschlacht im Osten
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Hello to all,
By examining the photos of this article I found only one image (#89) presenting specialist's badge of the Reichsbahn.
Do you know other images presenting the port of specialist's badge of the Reichsbahn ? Thank you in advance. Cordial greetings.
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The wearing of these so-called Spartenabzeichen (speciality-insignia) is rare. And when you see one wearing it practically always is the one for Lokomotivdienst, persons active with engines. The one with post 89 could be the one for car-supervisors (Wagenuntersuchungsdienst). Another possibility is he is a driver for a truck or assistant, which is plausible as he is standing near a truck (Fahrer und Begleiter der Lastkraftwagen für den öffentlichen Güterverkehr). Most found photos are wartime photographs.
The speciality-insignia were abolished with orders from the Reichsverkehrsminister (und Generaldirektor der Deutschen Reichsbahn) from February 13, 1941, as when it was said: die Spartenabzeichen fallen fort.
The DKO (Dienstkleidungsordnung) had to be corrected.Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 11-30-2013, 07:29 AM.Comment
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Hello Wilhelm,
Thank you for your precision. I try to identify specialist's badge of the Reichsbahn which I do not have to find in spite of a Web search and in several books of my library which is nevertheless enriched enough.
Have you in your documentation, representation of these specialist's badges ?
In the pleasure to read to you. Cordial greetings.
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You mean if they were publsihed in regulations or else?
They are anyway published in the DKO (Dienstkleidungsordnung), from 1938 (valid from January 1, 1939. The speciality-insignia are shown with pages 29 and 30 (addendum 5). They are also to be found in the DKO from July 1, 1937 (and May 1924). One can find also notes in the in the Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt der Deutschen Reichsbahn. A note from August 7, 1935 mentions the speciality-insignia as earlier worn still were valid. Further I have seen them in "Deutsche Reichsbahn, Dienstkleidung und Abzeichen" from 1936, pages 15 through 17.
I have seen them offered also in a price-list from Gebrüder Auernhammer from Weisenburg (leaflet page 3) and a price-list from Clemens Wagner from Braunschweig (the well-known headgear manufacturer) in the addendum for cataloque number 46, page 25.Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 11-30-2013, 07:50 AM.Comment
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the picture (#89) showing not Reichsbahn member but Aktion TR member:
Die " Aktion TR " ( auch "Tr" für Transport ) wurde mit Vfg. v. 5. 3. 1941 m. W. v. 1. 4. 1941 ( OKW 1 k 35 AHA/Ag/E (Va) Nr. 450/41 geh. ) - für Transportaufgaben des Heeres und der Luftwaffe im Osten - aufgestellt und in geschloßenen Transportkolonnen eingesetzt. Die Fahrzeuge kamen aus der Wirtschaft .
Die Angehörigen waren Freiwillige und zählten, obwohl sie nicht Soldaten waren, zu den Wehrmachtsangehörigen.
Als Uniformierung trugen sie Heeresuniformen ohne alle Abzeichen und ohne Schulterklappen und die Heeresfeldmütze mit Hoheitsabzeichen und Kokarde und zusätzlich eine Armbinde ( Deutschen Wehrmacht ).
Mit Verfügung v. 4. 12. 1941 ( HM 41, Nr. 1214 ) wurde das Tragen des Hoheitsabzeichen ( Heer ) an der linken Brustseite der Feldbluse oberhalb der Ordenspange genehmigt.
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Hello,
Wilhelm : Thank you for the precision of your information, as usual. I contact you by e-mail.
Kuratorium : I knew Aktion TR but I did not know this uniformologique specificity. Thank you for this precision. This man wears nevertheless specialist's badge of the Reichsbahn.
Cordial greetings.
PoluxComment
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Polux,
I did send you information about the speciality patches for your convenience!
Best regards,
wimComment
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Originally posted by kuratorium View Post
This is WAF member 415's great grandfather and he was a DRB member but ended up driving for the WH as an auxiliary. The 2nd photo (also posted by WAF member 415) still shows the same man
in his original blue DRB uniform !
This explains his DRB sleeve insignia which he maintained on his field gray tunic! (photo credit goes to as tagged). So its either DRB in field gray or as claimed (now absorbed in) "Aktion Tr".....???Last edited by NickG; 12-02-2013, 03:47 PM.Comment
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In post #89, that picture was taken in Rouen in 1942. The second picture where he is wearing his RB uniform was taken in Brussels in 1940. Those trucks were enemy vehicles and they were tasked with driving them back to Germany on behalf of the Wehrmacht. He was in Reichsbahn-Kolonnen 930 and then when they were transferred under the Wehrmacht they were Kraftwagen Transport Abteilung 353. They were RB but under the command of the Wehrmacht.Comment
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This is very plausible. The cuffband must have been introduced on orders of the army. I have not ever seen them ordered in DRB-regulations. But neither in the Heeresmitteilungen or Heeresverordngsblatt (as far as I can remember). There are many sub-organizations from which none or hardly any information is available. That's for sure!Comment
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Hello,
I am anxious here to thank Mr. Saris for his information sent by e-mail. They allowed me to identify several specialists' badges of the Reichsbahn. Thank you Wim
Thank you also in 415 for the information about the images of his great grandfather.
To end, here is the band about which speaks M. Saris. He could involve a band intended for Kraftwagen-Transport-Abt. 350, unit constituted with Reichsbahn-Kolonnen. It is a question at this stage of a supposition because no information confirms this.
For information, this band was presented as NSKK in the book of Angolia and Littlejohn, NSKK-NSFK, Bender.
If somebody has more information about this subject, I am interested
Cordial greetings.
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Hauptverkehrsdirektion Paris
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