Zoll official photo

[jh-ss44]

does any one here have a copy of the chart (s) showing the rank system of customs department ? can not seem to find one . thank you. jeff

[kuratorium]

does any one here have a copy of the chart (s) showing the rank system of customs department ? can not seem to find one . thank you. jeff

no problemo :

[kuratorium]

BTW -
here I have a very interesting photo from my private collection :
German "Schifftechnischer Wasserzollbeamter" (maybe ethnic German or Czech) serving as a Zoll-interpreter for Czech language, note the ultrarare cufftitle "Česky" (Czech/Tschechisch).
It´s probably a pre-war photo -
note the shield with anchors on the sabre, RFV-Zollbetriebsassistent boards, tschako (?) placed on the table, and old style of collar tabs.
If I'm wrong, please correct me someone.

[jh-ss44]

Kuratorium. Thank you very much for posting the rank chart !!!! I'm working on a book idea , it's line drawings of all the third reich rank insignia. collar tabs , shoulder boards, & any rank related armbands. have a lot done , but tons to go. I'm doing it close to full scale size.
some of the different services are tough to hunt down , OR get confusing , with changes over the years. Again thanks !! jeff

[lbsr]

KURATORIM,
can You post detail of shoulder board of that man?
Due to collar patches I think this photo was taken sometimes in 34-37, before occupation of Czechoslovakian republic...

jh-ss44
Collar patches for zoll generals posted by kuratorim were valid to end of year 1940. After that ( exact date is not known to me) they were changed to another pattern...
Rank insignia & charts of RFV-men is a little complicated matter - some of them can You see here:
http://lbsr.mzf.cz/dr/rfv/zollbeamte.html

[kuratorium]

can You post detail of shoulder board of that man?

No problem.
Unfortunately is this close up not sharp enough, therefore is quite possible that instead of letters RFV are on the boards positioned crossed anchors, similar as on the saber...

[lbsr]

Thank for posting...
Have a problem with uniform of this man ... after my opinion he wear an uniform of Weimar Sachsische Landgendarmerie - blouse without breast pockets, dark cuffs, shoulder boards ( http://lbsr.mzf.cz/dr/sf/sf1.html#v1a1
These form of collar patches - Litzenspiegel - was worn by Reichsfinanzverwaltung only from 1934-37 and in this time they wore classic blouse - Rock - with breast pockets ans so-called "Roll" cuffs in color of blouse.
Wasserzollbeamte normally wore dark blue jacket (only in summer they could wore browngreen blouse after Landzollbeamten cut...)
For uniform of RFV see for example http://lbsr.mzf.cz/forum/Z_1.jpg
From left to right: ZGS in new (1937 regulations) uniform, Czechoslovakian Gendarm, ZGS in old (1934 regulations) uniform - summer blouse, ZGS in old uniform (1934 regs). All ZGS have new (1937 regs) shoulder boards.
For old (1934 regs)shoulder boards see http://lbsr.mzf.cz/dr/rfv/dg_1.html. From 1934 to 1937 were eagles om shoulder board with swastika...

[kapitein]

Great pics and zoll information!
For those who missed is a nice zoll summer uniform:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=577568
Kapitein

[stonemint]

no problemo :

Kuratorium, excellent contribution to the thread.

Do you have one of these for the 1933-1937 Customs uniforms? I cannot find anything on the net for that era.

[stonemint]

Landzollmann with a crusher :

[stonemint]

Wedding pic:

[jwh44]

Hello
Here is an interesting photo of a customs man wearing his regular KS with RFV marking.
Regards
Alain

[stonemint]

Great pic, JWH!

I have noticed that the M-34 uniform insignia continued to be worn long after it was superceded by the new M-38 uniform:

[stonemint]

Another common pic:

[stonemint]

Pre-war pic of the M-34 uniform: